1. Subscribermoonbus
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    Soon, very soon, one cable fits all:

    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/06/opinions/phone-charger-one-cord-eu-iphone-yang/index.html

    At last, standardizarion for charging electronic devices. This should have happened years ago.
  2. SubscriberKewpie
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    @moonbus said
    Soon, very soon, one cable fits all:

    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/06/opinions/phone-charger-one-cord-eu-iphone-yang/index.html

    At last, standardizarion for charging electronic devices. This should have happened years ago.
    It did happen years ago, for everyone except Apple user dinosaurs. We still have the odd conflict between microUSB and USBc, but that's only until the old stuff stops working. Apple's greed is slowly driving its customers away.
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    @kewpie said
    It did happen years ago, for everyone except Apple user dinosaurs. We still have the odd conflict between microUSB and USBc, but that's only until the old stuff stops working. Apple's greed is slowly driving its customers away.
    Apple’s innovation is what changed the world and made it possible for you to play chess and post messages here. The two Steves invented the privately owned computer and made it affordable.
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    @moonbus said
    Apple’s innovation is what changed the world and made it possible for you to play chess and post messages here. The two Steves invented the privately owned computer and made it affordable.
    Complete and utter bull.

    For one, no Apple product was ever affordable.

    For another, the internet was invented before Jobs came onto the scene, and the web came after but built on real computers rather than Apples.

    And then, don't you remember Uncle Clive? The Beeb? Even the TRS-80, junky as it was?

    Doug Breidbart, and Xerox @#&*#@ PARC!?


    All Jobs did was steal.
  5. SubscriberKewpie
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    21 Dec '22 13:161 edit
    Back in the 1980s we had Microsoft desktops with decent screens in homes and offices. Apple boxes were in existence, but only used by the design staff. Apple's focus on graphics eventually triggered the mainstream industry's interest, but the real growth in Apple came from personal consumer focus and supercharged marketing exploitation. Buy an Apple product, buy special cables and chargers and cases, use planned obsolescence to force frequent repeat purchases, limit access to user controls, limit access to third-party apps. Create a cult following. Charge twice the product's real value, like the fashion houses do. All great for Apple shareholders, not so much for the planet.
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    @kewpie said
    Back in the 1980s we had Microsoft desktops with decent screens in homes and offices. Apple boxes were in existence, but only used by the design staff. Apple's focus on graphics eventually triggered the mainstream industry's interest, but the real growth in Apple came from personal consumer focus and supercharged marketing exploitation. Buy an Apple product, buy special cab ...[text shortened]... al value, like the fashion houses do. All great for Apple shareholders, not so much for the planet.
    That was my experience, too. When we replaced our Lanier dedicated word-processors in our office, it was with IBM PCs, probably 1088s. A few years later we got a Mac for the guy who helped with graphics for publications (me).
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    Also, I think Visicalc was more revolutionary than the Mac.
  8. Standard memberBigDogg
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    @shallow-blue said
    Complete and utter bull.

    For one, no Apple product was ever affordable.

    For another, the internet was invented before Jobs came onto the scene, and the web came after but built on real computers rather than Apples.

    And then, don't you remember Uncle Clive? The Beeb? Even the TRS-80, junky as it was?

    Doug Breidbart, and Xerox @#&*#@ PARC!?


    All Jobs did was steal.
    Also, Apple lost the PC market to IBM due to their stupid decision to keep their tech proprietary, while IBM let other manufacturers make PC's.
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