Witness Lee and the Lord's Recovery Movement

An Open Letter from Jo Casteel
bit.ly/JoFBPostLeavingRecovery

YouTube Channel Discusses the Local Church
YouTube

Witness Lee’s CULT Exposed – Intro (Former Member Speaks Out)
YouTube&list=PLali52_5f13wADat289j1LkAvz05f-LuU

My Local Church Experience
https://www.mylocalchurchexperience.com/

Local Church Discussion
http://localchurchdiscussions.com

Audiobook: Jim Moran’s 51 Articles About The Lord’s Recovery Cult (Which the Cult Suppressed)
https://powerplaypause.blog/the-witness-lee-cult/

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@dariusz said
Audiobook: Jim Moran’s 51 Articles About The Lord’s Recovery Cult (Which the Cult Suppressed)
https://powerplaypause.blog/the-witness-lee-cult/

We all know that already. Even the atheists know, not that they care but they as well have identified the LCM as a cult and Witness Lee as a cult leader misleading the gullible and the stupid like sonship, who basically has no credibility around here. Over the years people have seen into his false teachings and his blatant cult teachings.

@dariusz said
An Open Letter from Jo Casteel
bit.ly/JoFBPostLeavingRecovery

YouTube Channel Discusses the Local Church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-2QoHtRerA

Witness Lee’s CULT Exposed – Intro (Former Member Speaks Out)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRkcT5tU578&list=PLali52_5f13wADat289j1LkAvz05f-LuU

My Local Church Experience
https://www.mylocalchurchexperience.com/

Local Church Discussion
http://localchurchdiscussions.com

...oh, and welcome back!

@Dariusz

Hi. I'm Jack Wilmore (aka sonship- long ago jaywill)

Are you going to remain only an anonymous pointer to some videos? Or are you willing to exchange some discussions in this thread?

I watched both your videos. First, I would ask you:

Did the late Witness Lee say that only if a local church digests books by him could they be considered a genuine local church? My recollection is that Lee said local churches that did not like to read books by him are conceptually still local churches.

This is not cult like IMO. This is not authoritarian control of a movement IMO.
Come and reply please.

@sonship said
@Dariusz

Hi. I'm Jack Wilmore (aka sonship- long ago jaywill)

Are you going to remain only an anonymous pointer to some videos? Or are you willing to exchange some discussions in this thread?

I watched both your videos. First, I would ask you:

Did the late Witness Lee say that only if a local church digests books by him could they be considered a genui ...[text shortened]... not cult like IMO. This is not authoritarian control of a movement IMO.
Come and reply please.

What Lee did say was that Catholics and Protestants were in an organization of Satan.

Dariusz, are you going to discuss a bit or allow others by proxy to shield you, doing all the talking?

Are you the former poster who came around for a little while, called WitlessLee?

@sonship said
This is not cult like IMO. This is not authoritarian control of a movement IMO.

I’ll prove you are in cult by asking you a simple question.

On your churches website, in the statement of beliefs section, it states that a person MUST accept the trinity doctrine in order to be saved.

Do you agree with what your church has published in this regard. Yes, or no?

@sonship

Cults invariably claim exclusive access to the divine and condemn other Christian denominations to Satan.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
@sonship

Cults invariably claim exclusive access to the divine and condemn other Christian denominations to Satan.

...and persons with alternative doctrinal interpretations as “heretics”.

@divegeester

In the past I think you complained when people did not play chess enough before joining a Forum. Dariuz made only 3 chess moves before posting a strongly opinionated video. And she or he so far seems mysteriously absent from participation from discussing it.


You welcomed the poster back.
But you voiced no suspicion otherwise. Where is this sense of objection now?

@divegeester

...and persons with alternative doctrinal interpretations as “heretics”.

At this very hour I am aware that Kellyjay holds a different opinion about the Assurance of eternal salvation then I hold. I could be called "Once Saved Always Saved". He says he is not that.

Have I called him a heretic?

Suzianne I am pretty sure holds a different opinion from me about eternal punishment as a conscious one. Have I called Suzianne a heretic?

There was a poster here (he may be back now for all I know) who strongly disagreed with me teaching one - city / one - church. He said he met with a local assembly in South Africa and didn't like the experience.

Do you recall me telling him he was a heretic?

I am sure Philokalia and I do not always agree.
I have not called him a heretic.

I am sure SecondSon and I do not always agree.
I have not called him a heretic.

Probably dj2becker and I could find something doctrinal that we have different opinions about. I have not called him a heretic.

Rjhinds I don't think I called a heretic in our strong debates. I did however tell him that there was such a thing as being a Christian with an antichrist attitude in principle. That is strongly denying SOME aspect of the total nature of Christ can be, in principle, an antichrist attitude robbing Christ of SOME aspect of His total nature.

Ie. He is God but not a man.
He is a man yet not God.
He is not the Creator.
He is not a creature as a man.

I did warn him that these could be antichrist like attitudes.

But I think you are exaggerating if you mean I have that tendency.

Looking over past discussions.

I noticed a thread I started - "Recommending Bob Mumford."
I noticed another thread by me "Recommending Derek Prince."

Another thread about thanking God for faithful servant of God was dedicated to Mary McDonough.


None of these three were co-workers of Witness Lee.

What happened to me only recommending Witness Lee? Dariusz ?
Doesn't your video say in essence "they say Lee's way or no way" ?

@sonship said
Another thread about thanking God for faithful servant of God was dedicated to Mary McDonough.

Was she the “fountain of blood” lady?