Matthew 16
Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
@kellyjaysaid Matthew 16
Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
Who do you say Jesus is?
Assuming what we think we "know" about him isn't simply the description of a composite figure [constructed decades after he died by writers with the aim of establishing a breakaway religion/cult of personality], I think he was probably nothing more or less than a radical Jewish rabbi who caused enough of a stir to result in him being executed by the Romans for sedition but not enough of a stir to cause anything to be written about him during his lifetime.
@kellyjaysaid Matthew 16
Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
Who do you say Jesus is?
A religeous fanatic like those we call terrorists these days.
@kellyjaysaid Matthew 16
Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
Who do you say Jesus is?
Jesus is a main character in a popular Western religious tome. He may have been a man that actually lived on earth, or a fictional character invented by religious radicals of that time. (I have no strong opinion either way.)
Many of his followers have their own personal and strict interpretation of the narrative of his life and teachings and doings. They tend to deny that this narrative is the result of an interpretation. Their narratives tend to clash with those of other followers. Each thinks their interpretation is the only right one, even though no two are completely alike.
@keggesaid A religeous fanatic like those we call terrorists these days.
The politically passive figure at the centre of the "Jesus" story, if anything, undermined the "radical" Jewish "terrorists" who were constantly rebelling against Roman colonial rule. This was done by depicting him as a maverick - effectively diluting and reframing Judaism - rather than depicting him as a "fanatic".
@whodeysaid It is interesting that in the Biblical account of Jesus pretty much everyone ended up abandoning him to the cross as well.
Just more brilliant chess players I reckon. Even Peter who disavowed him like you do now.
Some things never change.
But to his credit once Peter denied Christ and the rooster crowed he wept bitterly and later repented. You see, he loved him.
Who Jesus actually was and how he was depicted - in texts written decades and decades after he was executed for sedition - are most likely different things, at least to my non-superstitious way of thinking.
You have meagre evidence of what "Peter" actually said or did thirty or forty years before people seeking to create a religion sat down and started conjuring up a story.
Who do people say I am?
23 Feb '20 22:31
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