Two Questions

I have two questions. And I will volunteer to give my answer to them first.

1.) Can human beings imagine time with no beginning?

2.) Can human beings imagine time with a beginning?

Those are the two questions.
Personally, I cannot imagine either.

No.
No.

What about you?

@sonship said
I have two questions. And I will volunteer to give my answer to them first.

1.) Can human beings imagine time with no beginning?

2.) Can human beings imagine time with a beginning?

Those are the two questions.
Personally, I cannot imagine either.

No.
No.

What about you?

I can imagine both.

@sonship said
1.) Can human beings imagine time with no beginning?

2.) Can human beings imagine time with a beginning?

I think humans can imagine whatever they want. I can imagine both of these things. The world's so-called revealed religions all offer packages of supposed answers to "big questions" that appeal to people's imaginations.

@sonship said
I have two questions. And I will volunteer to give my answer to them first.

1.) Can human beings imagine time with no beginning?

2.) Can human beings imagine time with a beginning?

Those are the two questions.
Personally, I cannot imagine either.

No.
No.

What about you?

Imagine or believe?

@sonship said
I have two questions. And I will volunteer to give my answer to them first.

1.) Can human beings imagine time with no beginning?

2.) Can human beings imagine time with a beginning?

Those are the two questions.
Personally, I cannot imagine either.

No.
No.

What about you?

I think time with a beginning is easier, but I think can imagine both. How do you imagine time if you can't do either?

@Ghost-of-a-Duke
Imagine.

@avalanchethecat said
I think time with a beginning is easier, but I think can imagine both. How do you imagine time if you can't do either?

Time is ongoing. I have no problem imagining more ongoing time as I have experienced.

Time without beginning is hard to imagine me.
Time without ending is hard to imagine for me.

How about can you imagine space without and end?
And can you imagine space that starts somewhere?

For me this is much like time.
I can imagine space for I certainly experience space.

Space continuing infinitely is hard for me to imagine.
Space beginning somewhere is also hard for me to imagine.

How about you all?

@sonship said
How about can you imagine space without and end?
And can you imagine space that starts somewhere?

I think people can imagine anything.

In the same way as people can imagine that a creator being had 'himself' - in some form or another [let ecclesiastical technocrats bicker over one that if they want] - had 'himself' executed by the Romans because that was the only way humans could be "saved".

People can imagine whatever they want. If they are convinced by it, they can believe it. I think people can literally believe anything.

Whoever doesn't believe in mind over matter, please raise your hand.

@sonship said
Whoever doesn't believe in mind over matter, please raise your hand.

Well you're going to have to elucidate on that before I give my view.

@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke
Imagine.

I was hoping you had mistakenly written imagine instead of believe.

I can imagine anything. That's how imagination works.

@sonship said
I have two questions. And I will volunteer to give my answer to them first.

1.) Can human beings imagine time with no beginning?

2.) Can human beings imagine time with a beginning?

Those are the two questions.
Personally, I cannot imagine either.

No.
No.

What about you?

“ 2.) Can human beings imagine time with a beginning?”
This human can because he accepts the Big Bang theory of our universe.
According to the ‘arrow of time’ explanation time would have begun with the big bangs release of free energy and from that moment time is tied to entropy and will end when entropy brings an end to free energy.
But given that we don’t know what the conditions were at or just prior to the Big Bang then 🤷🏻‍♂️
But I can certainly imagine time having a beginning and an end.

@kevcvs57

But given that we don’t know what the conditions were at or just prior to the Big Bang then 🤷🏻‍♂️
But I can certainly imagine time having a beginning and an end.

That's my problem with imagining a beginning to time.
As soon as you speak of "just prior to the Big Bang" the beginning of TIME has a prior moment you have to imagine.

Mind you I am not saying this explanation cannot be true.
I am simply saying that it is hard to imagine.

Human language has its limits.
And if someone tells you some things you have to take it sometimes on a kind of trust, though you cannot imagine what is being told you.

It is hard to imagine for me TIME with no beginning.
It is had to imagine for me TIME with a definite beginning too.

imagine that time does not exist
there is no past
there is no future
there exists only the present, the right now
all these other constructs are humans attempting to manage the inexplicable