Thought exercises: "God" exists...

Assuming "God" exists, where "God" is defined as an entity of some kind that somehow caused the universe we perceive to exist.

Assuming "God exists" is a fact...

Thought exercise #1
Why would we assume it is a "good" God?

Thought exercise #2
Why would we assume it had communicated with our species?

Thought exercise #3
Why would it follow that we are immortal beings?

@fmf said
Assuming "God" exists, where "God" is defined as an entity of some kind that somehow caused the universe we perceive to exist.

Assuming "God exists" is a fact...

Thought exercise #1
Why would we assume it is a "good" God?

Thought exercise #2
Why would we assume it had communicated with our species?

Thought exercise #3
Why would it follow that we are immortal beings?

People have been asking these questions for a very long time. They are well worth considering of course, but the answers have yet to be found.

Right now, I'm "considering" exercise #167 in my Woodpecker Method book. The answers have yet to be found there as well. 🤔

@mchill
You must be the wishy-washiest narcissist on this forum.

@fmf said
@mchill
You must be the wishy-washiest narcissist on this forum.

Sorry you feel this way, but the fact remains I don't have the answers to your questions, and if I may suggest, you may be mistaking my amateurish attempt at humor for narcissism.

@fmf said
Assuming "God" exists, where "God" is defined as an entity of some kind that somehow caused the universe we perceive to exist.

Assuming "God exists" is a fact...

Thought exercise #1
Why would we assume it is a "good" God?

Thought exercise #2
Why would we assume it had communicated with our species?

Thought exercise #3
Why would it follow that we are immortal beings?

Nothing whatever follows from "a creator entity caused the universe to exist." All the hard work is yet to be done, such as establishing that said creator entity is intelligent and not just another mindless mechanical super-natural force (like gravity or electromagnetism), that said creator entity is still around and did not extinguish itself (like a match which started a fire and then burned itself out), that said creator entity cares about humans enough to have sent a message once or more than once, that said creator entity has any anthropomorphic characteristics at all (love, anger, wrath, justice, mercy, forgiveness, whatever), that said creator entity is identical with any God, god, or goddess ever worshipped by men, that said creator entity ever walked this Earth in mortal form, that man is possessed of a soul, etc. None of these theses follows from "a creator entity exists"; they are one and all items of faith.

@fmf said
Assuming "God" exists, where "God" is defined as an entity of some kind that somehow caused the universe we perceive to exist.

Assuming "God exists" is a fact...

Thought exercise #1
Why would we assume it is a "good" God?

Thought exercise #2
Why would we assume it had communicated with our species?

Thought exercise #3
Why would it follow that we are immortal beings?

Because these are things we hope to be true.

@bigdogg said
Because these are things we hope to be true.

“We” ?

Who thinks what?

@fmf said
Assuming "God" exists, where "God" is defined as an entity of some kind that somehow caused the universe we perceive to exist.

Assuming "God exists" is a fact...

Thought exercise #1
Why would we assume it is a "good" God?

Thought exercise #2
Why would we assume it had communicated with our species?

Thought exercise #3
Why would it follow that we are immortal beings?

Perhaps we could reduce your impertinent trouble-making to:

If God does not play dice with the cosmos, does God play Scrabble with it instead?

Thoughts?

@fmf said


Assuming "God exists" is a fact...

Thought exercise #1
Why would we assume it is a "good" God?

Why would 'we' assume it is one God? Why not many gods?

Why assume anything at all? Why assume the universe had a beginning?

@moonbus said
“We” ?

I'm not sure what's tripping you up here.

@bigdogg said
I'm not sure what's tripping you up here.

Some people hope for immortality, others don’t. Those who don’t, also don’t need to believe in creator entities to explain how the universe began. I don’t count myself among the ‘we’ who make assumptions about or need to believe in creator entities.

@moonbus said
Some people hope for immortality, others don’t. Those who don’t, also don’t need to believe in creator entities to explain how the universe began.

The "those who don't" are outside of this exercise, though. See the stipulations.

@bigdogg said
The "those who don't" are outside of this exercise, though. See the stipulations.

Am I barred from participating in a thought exercise based on an assumption, when the thread author himself does not make this assumption?

@moonbus said
Why assume anything at all?

For the purpose of this particular thought exercise.