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@whodey saidThe most populous Muslim country in the world.
But it is an Islamic country, no?
@whodey saidThe most populous Muslim country in the world.
But it is an Islamic country, no?
@moonbus saidWhy on earth would they then question the morality of their supreme leader Mo by suggesting that marriage at the age of 6 is not moral?
The most populous Muslim country in the world.
@whodey said"Supreme leader?"
Why on earth would they then question the morality of their supreme leader Mo by suggesting that marriage at the age of 6 is not moral?
@fmf saidAll of Mohammads thoughts and actions are seen as perfect by Muslims.
"Supreme leader?"
Indonesia is a constitutional republic. It has an elected president as its head of state. Laws are propsed and enacted by an elected national assembly.
@whodey saidI don't think so, no.
All of Mohammads thoughts and actions are seen as perfect by Muslims.
Isn't this correct?
@whodey saidDo you think the law they have passed is a wise one? Do you think it should be 19 years of age in your country too?
Mohammad married a girl at age 6.
Is this a repudiation of the prophet?
@whodey saidYes , in the Quran , it is stated that Mohammad is the perfect man .
All of Mohammads thoughts and actions are seen as perfect by Muslims.
Isn't this correct?
@caissad4 saidI don't think it has much currency in the everyday lives of the Muslims I live among. It is God they worship and not prophets. Christians also look to the Bible and claim that Jesus was a "perfect man" because it says so and because they believe he is depicted as such.
Yes , in the Quran , it is stated that Mohammad is the perfect man .
@fmf saidDoes Indonesia have criminal laws concerning apostasy , insulting the prophet , proselytizing other religions ?
I don't think it has much currency in the everyday lives of the Muslims I live among. It is God they worship and not prophets. Christians also look to the Bible and claim that Jesus was a "perfect man" because it says so and because they believe he is depicted as such.
@caissad4 saidYes, it does have laws about blasphemy and proselytizing which, I suppose, are seen partly as public order issues. There's plenty of ostentatious and manufactured outrage here in the post-Suharto and social media-fuelled environment. The Christian Governor of Jakarta spent two years in prison recently for [perceived] blasphemy. In fact, his biggest "crimes" may have been his Chinese ethnicity and his success.
Does Indonesia have criminal laws concerning apostasy , insulting the prophet , proselytizing other religions ?
@fmf saidYou don't think so?
I don't think so, no.
@fmf saidBut from what I have gathered, Muslims believe that the prophets of the Bible were essentially perfect as well. Mohammad taught that the Bible had been "corrupted" as the corrupters talked smack about Patriarchs like Moses by suggesting that he sinned and was flawed as the Bible suggests.
I don't think it has much currency in the everyday lives of the Muslims I live among. It is God they worship and not prophets. Christians also look to the Bible and claim that Jesus was a "perfect man" because it says so and because they believe he is depicted as such.
@fmf saidIn Indonesia , do all siblings inherit equally or do they follow Islamic law where the females inherit 1/2 of what the male heirs inherit ?
Yes, it does have laws about blasphemy and proselytizing which, I suppose, are seen partly as public order issues. There's plenty of ostentatious and manufactured outrage here in the post-Suharto and social media-fuelled environment. The Christian Governor of Jakarta spent two years in prison recently for [perceived] blasphemy. In fact, his biggest "crimes" may have been his Chi ...[text shortened]... us freedom" [to a degree] by listing the religions officially recognized and protected by the state.
@whodey saidI've met very few Muslims in the last 30 years who seem to think about it all, in pretty much the same way as I've met very few Catholics in the last 30 years who actually believe in transubstantiation.
You don't think so?
So you don't know?
I've never met a Muslim who ever suggested that Mohammad was in error in any way.
Why not ask some of your Muslim peeps?