Originally posted by FMFWe walk out the consequences of our actions in this life good or bad, but
How are the sins of someone who serves God punished?
sins will be dealt with, Jesus died for sinners, He became one that took all
of our sins upon Himself. He did it for all, but not all want this for
themselves. With respect to Jesus it is as the scripture says:
Revelation 1: 5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
The punishment we deserve Christ paid for, sin has a cost "He paid the debt
he did not owe, we owed a debt we could not pay" as the song goes.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayThanks for your response, but it doesn't address the question.
We walk out the consequences of our actions in this life good or bad, but
sins will be dealt with, Jesus died for sinners, He became one that took all
of our sins upon Himself. He did it for all, but not all want this for
themselves. With respect to Jesus it is as the scripture says:
Revelation 1: 5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, ...[text shortened]... ost "He paid the debt
he did not owe, we owed a debt we could not pay" as the song goes.
Kelly
How are the sins of someone who serves God punished?
Can you describe the punishment?
Originally posted by FMFJesus took them upon Himself so we can be cleaned of them.
Thanks for your response, but it doesn't address the question.
How are the sins of someone who serves God punished?
Can you describe the punishment?
Which is why we shouldn't claim to serve God through Jesus and continue
on sinning as if nothing happen! We need to go to the one who was
punished for our sins so we can be forgiven. It was no little thing He did for
us, and is still doing for us.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJaySo you are saying the sins of someone who serves God go unpunished?
Jesus took them upon Himself so we can be cleaned of them.
Which is why we shouldn't claim to serve God through Jesus and continue
on sinning as if nothing happen! We need to go to the one who was
punished for our sins so we can be forgiven. It was no little thing He did for
us, and is still doing for us.
Originally posted by FMF2 Corinthians 5:20-21
So you are saying the sins of someone who serves God go unpunished?
King James Version (KJV)
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Originally posted by FMFHaven't you read what Jesus did? He was beaten with a wip, had His beard
"Sin will not go unpunished". So can you describe the punishment?
pulled out, a crown of thorns placed upon his head, nails driven in His
hands and feet, His side was pierced by a spear, He died naked upon a
cross and you need that described to you? He rose from the dead after that
so we could be forgiven.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJaySo the sins you will commit tomorrow, for instance, will be forgiven ~ and you personally will not be punished for them ~ because of what Jesus underwent 2,000 years ago?
Haven't you read what Jesus did? He was beaten with a wip, had His beard pulled out, a crown of thorns placed upon his head, nails driven in His hands and feet, His side was pierced by a spear, He died naked upon a cross and you need that described to you? He rose from the dead after that so we could be forgiven.
Originally posted by FMFPretty much every negative action if followed by a negative reaction.
So the sins you will commit tomorrow, for instance, will be forgiven ~ and you personally will not be punished for them ~ because of what Jesus underwent 2,000 years ago?
That means if you kill someone or steal from them, bad things will continue to happen. Thinking about Biblical examples, king David committed adultery and murder. He then lost his son and the rest of his sons tried to take away his throne.
Before his punishment, David asked for forgiveness and received it, however, there still was a terrible price to be paid.
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Originally posted by whodeyMy question was about the sins that Kelly Jay will commit tomorrow. Will they be forgiven because of what Jesus underwent [and will he personally not be punished for them because he "serves God"]? Folklore surrounding "David" who lived centuries before Jesus [and what Jesus is claimed to have done by being executed] does not really answer my question to Kelly and the reality of his sins tomorrow and the day after.
Pretty much every negative action if followed by a negative reaction.
That means if you kill someone or steal from them, bad things will continue to happen. Thinking about Biblical examples, king David committed adultery and murder. He then lost his son and the rest of his sons tried to take away his throne.
Before his punishment, David asked for forgiveness and received it, however, there still was a terrible price to be paid.
Originally posted by FMFThe story of king David is taken seriously by those of faith because those of faith believe the story. Thus, ignoring the story as fable will prevent you from understanding how those of faith view such things.
My question was about the sins that Kelly Jay will commit tomorrow. Will they be forgiven because of what Jesus underwent [and will he personally not be punished for them because he "serves God"]? Folklore surrounding "David" who lived centuries before Jesus [and what Jesus is claimed to have done by being executed] does not really answer my question to Kelly and the reality of his sins tomorrow and the day after.
As for Kelly's sins, that is between him and God. I got enough troubles of my own to worry about.
Originally posted by whodeyYou have not demonstrated how the King David story answers the question I posed to Kelly.
The story of king David is taken seriously by those of faith because those of faith believe the story. Thus, ignoring the story as fable will prevent you from understanding how those of faith view such things.