Originally posted by UllrYes, you can be the most vile and loathsome, evil....
So in other words you can be the most vile, loathsome, evil ...... ahh never mind. This is nonsense.
Because all sin has been covered by the righteous, pure, Holy one Jesus
Christ. It is Jesus' blood over the sins, it is a new life for old.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJaySo if "all sin has been covered by Christ", "sinners" do not get punished for their "sins" as long as they "belong to Him"? Is that what you're saying?
Jesus took it upon himself for them, and for everyone else. All sin has been
covered by Christ, but only those that belong to Him will be
Originally posted by KellyJayBut on page 18 you said: "Being a believer doesn't mean Jesus is their Lord, many are going to come to Christ and say "Lord, Lord..." and He is going to tell them depart from Him, He never knew them."
Yes
Kelly
So if it's not "sin" that separates "believers" who are saved from "believers" who are not saved, what does separate them?
Originally posted by FMFDo you know anyone personally?
But on page 18 you said: "Being a believer doesn't mean Jesus is their Lord, many are going to come to Christ and say "Lord, Lord..." and He is going to tell them depart from Him, He never knew them."
So if it's not "sin" that separates "believers" who are saved from "believers" who are not saved, what does separate them?
I'd say that when you do, it is different than someone you don't know.
Christ Jesus, actually comes into our lives, and God becomes a part of our
lives. If you do not have God's Spirit, you do not belong to God. This is
not a matter of human effort, but God's grace.
Kelly
Originally posted by sonshipNo you are incorrect. Purgatory is a collection, is the best way i can explain it. The primary part of purgatory goes from extreem heat to extreem cold. It is a place of purification. Those sins we die with, not the type where we reject God and tell Him to kiss off. But the stupid sins, like lustfully looking at some woman, or swearing Gods name when hitting your finger with a hammer, etc. As God is pure so must we be pure when entering into heaven.If you are familiar with purgatory, I've been there a lot. The deeper parts of it are close to hell.
Is this serious ?
There is no Roman Catholic Purgatory where souls are today being purified in a place of punishment. I am pretty sure of that.
The verses that RCC used to teach Purgatory are verses pertaining not to punishment dur ...[text shortened]... her God's dealing with some punished Christians during the millennial kingdom.
Am I right ?
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Originally posted by KellyJayI am afraid you have dealt with the question by simply introducing something that you then don't explain. Here it is again: So if it's not "sin" that separates "believers" who are saved from "believers" who are not saved, what does separate them? If it's about how much "God's Spirit" you have, what is the cut off point? So if it's "God's Spirit" that separates "believers" who are saved from "believers" who are not saved, does that mean that people who have less "God's Spirit" than you,for instance, are going to burn in hell? Does it mean that people who have more "God's Spirit" than you are more likely to avoid burning in hell than you?
Do you know anyone personally?
I'd say that when you do, it is different than someone you don't know.
Christ Jesus, actually comes into our lives, and God becomes a part of our
lives. If you do not have God's Spirit, you do not belong to God. This is
not a matter of human effort, but God's grace.
Originally posted by FMFyou should know my answer to this one.
I am afraid you have dealt with the question by simply introducing something that you then don't explain. Here it is again: So if it's not "sin" that separates "believers" who are saved from "believers" who are not saved, what does separate them? If it's about how much "God's Spirit" you have, what is the cut off point? So if it's "God's Spirit" that separates " ...[text shortened]... who have more "God's Spirit" than you are [b]more likely to avoid burning in hell than you?[/b]
Originally posted by SwissGambitWhen you experience something awesome, it is really hard to tell others who can not believe. But then what would i expect, no one ever hears of such things.
Oh yes. Pudgenik's life is full of excitement. He lives in the spiritual realm everyday, watching the angels and demons fly around, battling each other. He's on a first-name basis with some of them. 🙂
Originally posted by sonshipThere are millions of souls in purgatory, and they are thankful of it. Many are protestants who never believed in it.If you are familiar with purgatory, I've been there a lot. The deeper parts of it are close to hell.
Is this serious ?
There is no Roman Catholic Purgatory where souls are today being purified in a place of punishment. I am pretty sure of that.
The verses that RCC used to teach Purgatory are verses pertaining not to punishment dur ...[text shortened]... her God's dealing with some punished Christians during the millennial kingdom.
Am I right ?
We are not in the "millennial kingdom"