Originally posted by FMFI'm not British. Nor am I an illiterate hillbilly, which is what people who use this sound like.
"Orientated" is British English.
Lately (in the last ten years or so) there's been a popular effort in America to add "-ate" to many words, probably to sound like one knows what one's talking about. George Bush did it all the time, and he usually ended up looking like a fool for doing so. Unfortunately, his illiterate conservative redneck base took his example and ran with it. Now it seems pervasive in American speech, to our everlasting detriment.
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Originally posted by SuzianneNot completely tangential to the discussion here but I just wanted to vent that I'm a Brit, and one of my house mates keeps coming out with the americanism: "math"
I'm not British. Nor am I an illiterate hillbilly, which is what people who use this sound like.
Lately (in the last ten years or so) there's been a popular effort in America to add "-ate" to many words, probably to sound like one knows what one's talking about. George Bush did it all the time, and he usually ended up looking like a fool for doing so. ...[text shortened]... ample and ran with it. Now it seems pervasive in American speech, to our everlasting detriment.
It's maths dammit!!! :]
Originally posted by SuzianneAnnihilation of an unbeliever's body and soul rather than "destroy" understood in the Koine Greek as synonymous with eternal punishment of both the material body and immaterial soul in the Lake of Fire with Lucifer and his fallen angels?
"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." -- Matthew 10:28, KJV
Yes.
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI don't know what dictionary you subscribe to, but in my dictionary, to annihilate or to destroy something is a one-shot deal. Nothing 'eternal' about it, unless you mean it no longer exists forevermore. That's the only way it's 'eternal'.
Annihilation of an unbeliever's body and soul rather than "destroy" understood in the Koine Greek as synonymous with eternal punishment of both the material body and immaterial soul in the Lake of Fire with Lucifer and his fallen angels?
Edit: Plus, in Matthew 10:28, the meaning is clear. 'Destroy' is synonymous with 'kill' in the verse.
Originally posted by SuzianneThanks.
I don't know what dictionary you subscribe to, but in my dictionary, to annihilate or to destroy something is a one-shot deal. Nothing 'eternal' about it, unless you mean it no longer exists forevermore. That's the only way it's 'eternal'.
Edit: Plus, in Matthew 10:28, the meaning is clear. 'Destroy' is synonymous with 'kill' in the verse.
Originally posted by SuzianneMy point merely was that "Orientated" is British English and there's nothing wrong with it, in and of itself. "Oriented" is a different word that means the same thing. Many British people use both. Maybe there are some fragments of older English usage and Scots English usage that linger in the kinds of places where "hillbillies" live,while mainstream U.S. vocabulary has moved on. By contrast you have words like "dove" ~ past tense of "dive" ~ which died out long ago in Britain but which persisted in the U.S. after it was taken there by settlers. The word "dove" doesn't bug me. Does "dived" bug you?
I'm not British. Nor am I an illiterate hillbilly, which is what people who use this sound like.
Originally posted by FMFNo, because the case could be made for either. To take a perfectly good word like 'orient' and make it sound fancier by adding '-ate' to it without changing the definition is just stupid.
My point merely was that "Orientated" is British English and there's nothing wrong with it, in and of itself. "Oriented" is a different word that means the same thing. Many British people use both. Maybe there are some fragments of older English usage and Scots English usage that linger in the kinds of places where "hillbillies" live,while mainstream U.S. vocabu ...[text shortened]... U.S. after it was taken there by settlers. The word "dove" doesn't bug me. Does "dived" bug you?
Originally posted by SuzianneI would imagine that "orientated" mutated into "oriented" and that nobody added '-ate' to the latter to create the former; on the contrary it would have been a case of '-ate' being dropped [by some people] and so creating a synonym.
No, because the case could be made for either. To take a perfectly good word like 'orient' and make it sound fancier by adding '-ate' to it without changing the definition is just stupid.
Originally posted by FMFBeing a believer doesn't mean Jesus is their Lord, many are going to come
So "believers" will be punished for their sins in the same way as "unbelievers" will be?
to Christ and say "Lord, Lord..." and He is going to tell them depart from
Him, He never knew them. Even the devil believes.
Kelly
Originally posted by FMFIf there is any sin... not sure what or why you'd think some sins are not
But not all "unbelievers" will be punished ~ it depends on their sins. Is that the point you're making?
going to matter and others will. If you read any scripture about this topic,
where would you get that those that are not with God, will be spared?
Kelly