The Lake Of Fire

Originally posted by FMF
But you can? Is that what you mean?

I have not experienced it either

Originally posted by Pudgenik
I have not experienced it either

So you don't know what it is. You can't describe it. You can't even imagine it. The Bible doesn't describe it and mentions it in only a few places and is unclear, unspecific, contradictory and divisive. And yet whatever it is that you reckon it might be, it's Christian doctrine? Not exactly rock solid is it?

Originally posted by FMF
So you don't know what it is. You can't describe it. You can't even imagine it. The Bible doesn't describe it and mentions it in only a few places and is unclear, unspecific, contradictory and divisive. And yet whatever it is that you reckon it might be, it's Christian doctrine? Not exactly rock solid is it?

My personal experiences you won't believe anyways. I know of hell. I've seen parts of it, but have not experienced the fullness of it. If you are familiar with purgatory, I've been there a lot. The deeper parts of it are close to hell.

So how do I prove this to you? I can not.

Originally posted by Pudgenik
My personal experiences you won't believe anyways. I know of hell. I've seen parts of it, but have not experienced the fullness of it. If you are familiar with purgatory, I've been there a lot. The deeper parts of it are close to hell. So how do I prove this to you? I can not.

You're an eye witness to hell and purgatory?

Originally posted by FMF
You're an eye witness to hell and purgatory?

Do you believe that?

Originally posted by FMF
You're an eye witness to hell and purgatory?

Oh yes. Pudgenik's life is full of excitement. He lives in the spiritual realm everyday, watching the angels and demons fly around, battling each other. He's on a first-name basis with some of them. 🙂

Originally posted by Pudgenik
If you are familiar with purgatory, I've been there a lot. The deeper parts of it are close to hell.

The "deeper parts" of purgatory?

Originally posted by Pudgenik
My personal experiences you won't believe anyways. I know of hell. I've seen parts of it, but have not experienced the fullness of it. If you are familiar with purgatory, I've been there a lot. The deeper parts of it are close to hell.

So how do I prove this to you? I can not.

If you are familiar with purgatory, I've been there a lot. The deeper parts of it are close to hell.

Is this serious ?
There is no Roman Catholic Purgatory where souls are today being purified in a place of punishment. I am pretty sure of that.

The verses that RCC used to teach Purgatory are verses pertaining not to punishment during the church age. They are concerning punishment during the millennial kingdom.

And there are no indulgences that can be payed by loved ones to influence one way or another God's dealing with some punished Christians during the millennial kingdom.

Am I right ?

Originally posted by sonship

If you are familiar with purgatory, I've been there a lot. The deeper parts of it are close to hell.

Is this serious ?
There is no Roman Catholic Purgatory where souls are today being purified in a place of punishment. I am pretty sure of that.

The verses that RCC used to teach Purgatory are verses pertaining not to punishment dur ...[text shortened]... her God's dealing with some punished Christians during the millennial kingdom.

Am I right ?

We have been through this before but you ignore the reasons.

The Septuagint [the Bible of the Apostles] contained books which the Catholic Bible contains which the KJV has omitted. Those omitted books contain the idea of purgatory.

Originally posted by Rajk999
We have been through this before but you ignore the reasons.

The Septuagint [the Bible of the Apostles] contained books which the Catholic Bible contains which the KJV has omitted. Those omitted books contain the idea of purgatory.

The Septuagint is the Greek translation of the Hebrew Tanach the "Old Testament" "done by Seventy scholars ( Sept uagint )

We were marked out for eternal life. Predestinated unto sonship.

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Originally posted by sonship
The Septuagint is the Greek translation of the Hebrew Tanach the "Old Testament" "done by Seventy scholars ( [b]Sept uagint )

We were marked out for eternal life. Predestinated unto sonship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pZkloWbpiY&list=PL45C6D895EE4B8210[/b]

Predestinated???? unadulterated Calvinism more like !

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Predestinated???? unadulterated Calvinism more like !

Where in Ephesians 1:3-5 are the WORDS John Calvin ?

Don't blame Calvin for what the Scripture says there.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Maybe this will help:

[b]The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
...
And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

(Revelation 20:10, 15 NKJV)[/b]

Ron, Satan and his lieutenants will be bound up in the Lake of Fire for a thousand years. After being released "for a short time", he'll go back to serve the rest of his term.

But all human souls sent to the Lake of Fire will suffer "the second death" and be gone.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Predestinated???? unadulterated Calvinism more like !

The word is "predestined".

It bugs me when people say "orientated" too, when the word is "oriented".