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Should we respect all people and judge ideas???
Should we respect all ideas and judge people???
Is respect overrated no matter what, or whatever, who cares?

@KellyJay

Would you respect all grapes and eat them equally without prejudice? What if one grape is spoiled rotten and full of mold?

@bunnyknight said
@KellyJay

Would you respect all grapes and eat them equally without prejudice? What if one grape is spoiled rotten and full of mold?

Are you saying anyone with something flawed about them shouldn't be respected?

@kellyjay said
Should we respect all people and judge ideas???
Should we respect all ideas and judge people???
Is respect overrated no matter what, or whatever, who cares?

Are you feeling victimized?

@kellyjay said
Are you saying anyone with something flawed about them shouldn't be respected?

Unfortunately people with flawed brains or minds do exist. They are sometimes called sociopaths or psychos. They will lie to you, rob you, rape your girls, and then kill you without blinking an eye. And if such people rise to power they usually bring suffering and death to millions. I don't even respect people that litter, so to respect someone like that would be irrational.

@kellyjay said
Should we respect all people and judge ideas???
Should we respect all ideas and judge people???
Is respect overrated no matter what, or whatever, who cares?

Respect ought to be an initial default setting with strangers or with people whose interactions with you are superficial or not frequent.

Beyond that, respect ought to be earned rather than feigned when it isn't being earned.

This forum exists for people to judge each other's ideas and, by extension, judge people according to their ideas and their behaviour in presenting their ideas.

@kellyjay said
Should we respect all people and judge ideas???
Should we respect all ideas and judge people???
Is respect overrated no matter what, or whatever, who cares?

Respect has to be earned. If it is free it is not worth anything. People deserve to be treated respectfully and in a dignified manner until there is evidence that they do not, but to my mind this comes under the heading of courtesy. The corollary to this is that it cuts both ways, we have to earn the respect of others and, for that matter, our own self-respect.

@kellyjay said
Should we respect all people and judge ideas???
Should we respect all ideas and judge people???
Is respect overrated no matter what, or whatever, who cares?

Is there any point replying?

@deepthought said
Respect has to be earned. If it is free it is not worth anything. People deserve to be treated respectfully and in a dignified manner until there is evidence that they do not, but to my mind this comes under the heading of courtesy. The corollary to this is that it cuts both ways, we have to earn the respect of others and, for that matter, our own self-respect.

If respect has to be earned why show it at all until someone proves worthy? If we should be treating others respectfully and in a dignified manner, why would their deserving it matter? If we behave disrespectfully at all, doesn’t this lower us, making us like the one who is misbehaving when we don’t act appropriately towards others?

@kellyjay said
If respect has to be earned why show it at all until someone proves worthy? If we should be treating others respectfully and in a dignified manner, why would their deserving it matter? If we behave disrespectfully at all, doesn’t this lower us, making us like the one who is misbehaving when don’t act appropriately towards others?

Are you trying to blow your own trumpet in an ostentatiously indirect way? And are you going to move on to some sort of fake modesty mea culpa as if you are powerless to mend your own ways?

@kellyjay said
Should we respect all people and judge ideas???
Should we respect all ideas and judge people???
Is respect overrated no matter what, or whatever, who cares?

Relationship demands respect on some level.

Without out it there is none.

@kellyjay said
If respect has to be earned why show it at all until someone proves worthy? If we should be treating others respectfully and in a dignified manner, why would their deserving it matter? If we behave disrespectfully at all, doesn’t this lower us, making us like the one who is misbehaving when we don’t act appropriately towards others?

We treat people well because they may deserve respect. Behaving courteously towards someone is not the same as having respect for them. It is normal to defer judgement until sufficient evidence is available. If one does not feel respect for someone then not spending time with them is indicated. If they intrude on that then discourtesy is a suitable deterrent.

@whodey said
Relationship demands respect on some level.

Without out it there is none.

You believe that there is a level of respect or dignity owed to all regardless, simply for being a person?

@deepthought said
We treat people well because they may deserve respect. Behaving courteously towards someone is not the same as having respect for them. It is normal to defer judgement until sufficient evidence is available. If one does not feel respect for someone then not spending time with them is indicated. If they intrude on that then discourtesy is a suitable deterrent.

This query goes along the same lines as the questions in "Mathematics used in ethics," don't you think? If we put people on the scale of our own personal design to justify if we should show them respect or not, we can judge them unworthy. Since if they don’t measure up we will treat them one way, and if they do, another. I’m not sure people have thought this through when it comes to judgment; it highlights justice and righteous judgment, and dismisses the notion we all have a right to do as we will!

I think we should be very concerned about ideas just as we have been when discussing people. If we assume all are as good as any other, this places ideas in a place we just now acknowledged we shouldn’t do with people, since ideas have consequences as well.

Side note: I don't have to feel respect, I do believe I have to give it.

@kellyjay said
If we assume all are as good as any other, this places ideas in a place we just now acknowledged we shouldn’t do with people, since ideas have consequences as well.

Who "assumes we are all as good as any other"?