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    - You’re either with us or against us!

    - What if I don’t pick “sides”, but critically examine both perspectives and come to an informed, nuanced individual opinion?

    - Traitor! Heretic! Tare!
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    @divegeester said
    - You’re either with us or against us!

    - What if I don’t pick “sides”, but critically examine both perspectives and come to an informed, nuanced individual opinion?

    - Traitor! Heretic! Tare!
    Does that mean you're not on Jesus' side?

    That's who's side I'm on.

    But first, what do you mean you don't pick sides? In this forum? Like between believers and unbelievers?

    I haven't noticed a divide of any significance between Christians in this forum. Surely that's not what you mean.
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    @josephw said
    Does that mean you're not on Jesus' side?
    No, it’s doesn’t mean that.
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    @josephw said

    That's who's side I'm on.
    How wonderful.
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    @josephw said
    But first, what do you mean you don't pick sides? In this forum? Like between believers and unbelievers?
    No that’s not what I mean.

    Got any more stawmen in your team?
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    @josephw said

    I haven't noticed a divide of any significance between Christians in this forum. Surely that's not what you mean.
    Oh yes, here’s another one.

    Not bad, three strawmen on one post!
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    @divegeester

    More substance-less comments. Par for the course. Got any more before this thread dies and you dump the forum?
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    @divegeester

    I have an idea. Why don't you try qualifying and explaining more about what you're trying to say in your OP?

    Otherwise it appears as nothing more than just thread blurting.
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    @josephw said
    @divegeester

    I have an idea. Why don't you try qualifying and explaining more about what you're trying to say in your OP?

    Otherwise it appears as nothing more than just thread blurting.
    It’s a simple philosophical trope designed to create a platform for discussion about the partisan nature of deeply entrenched dogma and opposition to it.
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    @divegeester said
    It’s a simple philosophical trope designed to create a platform for discussion about the partisan nature of deeply entrenched dogma and opposition to it.
    Now we're getting somewhere.

    One man's dogma is another man's doctrine. Dogmatism can be a curse, but doctrine, based on the truth of God's Word, is simply sound theology.

    Unless that doctrine is based on erroneous interpretation, in which case I'm all in for exposing the lies, one should be cautious as there are many false teachers teaching false doctrine.

    Have a particular one in mind? 😏
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    @josephw said
    Now we're getting somewhere.

    One man's dogma is another man's doctrine. Dogmatism can be a curse, but doctrine, based on the truth of God's Word, is simply sound theology.

    Unless that doctrine is based on erroneous interpretation, in which case I'm all in for exposing the lies, one should be cautious as there are many false teachers teaching false doctrine.

    Have a particular one in mind? 😏
    All that is a bunch of baloney. Jesus said there are two kinds of people, the wise who keep his commandments and the foolish who do not. That is all there is to it.
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    @divegeester said
    - You’re either with us or against us!

    - What if I don’t pick “sides”, but critically examine both perspectives and come to an informed, nuanced individual opinion?

    - Traitor! Heretic! Tare!
    - You’re either with us or against us!

    I've never thought that. You're free to decide what you choose.
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    @rajk999 said
    All that is a bunch of baloney. Jesus said there are two kinds of people, the wise who keep his commandments and the foolish who do not. That is all there is to it.
    Tell it to divegeester.

    I'd be curious to hear his reply. Most likely it will sound a lot like an amalgamation of your hyper-legalism and his bland metaphorical and erratic liberal higher criticism.
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    The purpose of ideology is almost invariably to eliminate doubt, curiosity, debate and dissent.
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    @mchill said
    - You’re either with us or against us!

    I've never thought that. You're free to decide what you choose.
    Divegeester is on the fence. He's neither hot or cold.

    It appears he's content with his personal "nuanced" opinion in spite of the clear teaching of scripture.
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