One World Religion

Isn't the eventual installation of their God figures, narratives and traditions ~ as the world's one and only faith ~ the ideal and desired outcome for proactive devotees of pretty much any and all "revealed" religions?

@fmf said
Isn't the eventual installation of their God figures, narratives and traditions ~ as the world's one and only faith ~ the ideal and desired outcome for proactive devotees of pretty much any and all "revealed" religions?

I think for some devotees it pretty much is and for some religions, such as Islam, it is an open corporate strategy.

However if you are referring to Medullah’s rhetoric, I think he is talking about a global one world government installing a single religion in order to bring a secular “peace”.

@fmf said
Isn't the eventual installation of their God figures, narratives and traditions ~ as the world's one and only faith ~ the ideal and desired outcome for proactive devotees of pretty much any and all "revealed" religions?

Not necessarily the desired outcome for devotees. Hasn't
there been many sects who believe only a quota get to
heaven? Surely they don't want someone nicking their
place? However the heads of any religion always benefit
by extending their flock! Cha-ching, cha-ching!

@divegeester said
However if you are referring to Medullah’s rhetoric, I think he is talking about a global one world government installing a single religion in order to bring a secular “peace”.

My interest in such stuff does not extend much beyond having the occasional listen to the ludicrous Alex Jones on Infowars.

@wolfgang59 said
Not necessarily the desired outcome for devotees. Hasn't
there been many sects who believe only a quota get to
heaven?

Good point.

I was basing my OP question on the fact that pretty much every single devotee of every "revealed" religion believes that their God figure is the only real one ~ and therefore every human being's true God.

@fmf said
Good point.

I was basing my OP question on the fact that pretty much every single devotee of every "revealed" religion believes that their God figure is the only real one ~ and therefore every human being's true God.

OK. I thought you were discussing most religions
obsession with evangelism. The dreaded door-
knocking of JWs and Mormons being exemplars.

@fmf said
Isn't the eventual installation of their God figures, narratives and traditions ~ as the world's one and only faith ~ the ideal and desired outcome for proactive devotees of pretty much any and all "revealed" religions?

Politics is much like religion in that both are an ideology that tells people how to live their lives and neither can be "proved" to be correct. This is why bringing up either religion or politics notoriously creates arguments easily. In short, politics is a Godless religion that erects gods to worship in HIs stead. It often turns into a form of idolatry for those of faith. Having said that, politics make strange bed fellows.

For example, you see gays in San Fran protest in favor of the Palestinian cause, however, the people they are protesting for would just assume throw them off a building if it came down to it. So why the seeming alliance? It is an ideological hatred of Zionism that unites them.

The history of anti-Semitism is pretty impressive. After all, it united an whole continent of Europe for centuries to ban, oppress, and round up Jews in massive numbers to murder them. And judging from what I see there today, it still remains in the shadows that springs out in many forms, such as anti-Zionism. But can a world religion also take the same approach, seeing that anti-Semitism is probably as bad today as it ever has been? Then again, if not, how would they dispense with it?

As a result, my guess is that the Bible is right, in the last days the world will unite to overthrow Israel and anti-Zionism will be one of it's gospels. It will be the end of days. That will be a common link to the One World religion once it arrives.

@whodey

Antisemitism is as bad as today as it's ever been? Are you for real?

@proper-knob said
@whodey

Antisemitism is as bad as today as it's ever been? Are you for real?

An example would be all the resolutions from the UN passed against Israel. There is no other nation on the planet that has had more resolutions written against, it, not even close, yet there is genocide all around Israel in places like the Sudan and Syria. All this for building walls? Really?

It is akin to slavery. At no other time in history has there been as much slavery in the world than today. It is mostly now in the shadows is all.

At some point in the future, it will come out of the shadows again, only, with a vengeance!!

@whodey said
An example would be all the resolutions from the UN passed against Israel. There is no other nation on the planet that has had more resolutions written against, it, not even close, yet there is genocide all around Israel in places like the Sudan and Syria. All this for building walls? Really?

It is akin to slavery. At no other time in history has there been as much slav ...[text shortened]... all.

At some point in the future, it will come out of the shadows again, only, with a vengeance!!

The UN resolutions passed against Israel are worse than the actions of the Nazi regime during the Holocaust? You must be on the wind up.

At no other time has there been as much slavery in the world than there is today? Did you study history at school or did that subject skip you by?

@proper-knob said
The UN resolutions passed against Israel are worse than the actions of the Nazi regime during the Holocaust? You must be on the wind up.

At no other time has there been as much slavery in the world than there is today? Did you study history at school or did that subject skip you by?

There are more slaves today.

https://www.alternet.org/2015/01/there-are-more-slaves-today-any-time-human-history/

As for UN hatred of Israel.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/01/opinion/united-in-ignominy.html



UNITED NATIONS — The United Nations is celebrating its 70th anniversary this year. It was intended to be a temple of peace, but this once great global body has been overrun by the repressive regimes that violate human rights and undermine international security.

In 1949, when the United Nations admitted Israel as a member state, it had 58 member countries and about half had a democratic orientation. Today, the landscape of the organization has changed drastically. From 51 member states at its founding in 1945, the institution has grown to 193 members — fewer than half of which are democracies.

The very nations that deny democratic rights to their people abuse the United Nations’ democratic forums to advance their interests. The largest of these groups comprises members from the 120-member-strong bloc known as the Non-Aligned Movement. Since 2012, the bloc has been chaired by Iran, which has used its position to bolster its allies and marginalize Israel.

In March, the United Nations closed the annual meeting of its Commission on the Status of Women by publishing a report that effectively singled out just one country for condemnation: Israel. The commission apparently had nothing to say about the Sudanese girls who are subjected to female genital mutilation. It also had nothing to say about the Iranian women who have been punished for crimes of “adultery” by stoning. These oversights may have something to do with the fact that both Iran and Sudan sit on the 45-member commission.



Then there is the United Nations Human Rights Council (the body that replaced the Commission on Human Rights in 2006). Its membership includes Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Venezuela — nations where you risk life and liberty if you express dissenting opinions. Yet these governments stand in judgment on the rest of us.

In 2007, Sudan chaired a committee overseeing human rights — even as its president, Omar Hassan al-Bashir, was being investigated for crimes of genocide and crimes against humanity in Darfur, for which the International Criminal Court later issued arrest warrants. Saudi Arabia — a regime notorious for public executions and floggings like that, most recently, of the blogger Raif Badawi — sits on the Human Rights Council, despite regularly receiving the worst possible ratings on civil liberties and political rights from the independent watchdog Freedom House.

In 2013, Iran was elected to the committee responsible for disarmament — even as it continued its nuclear expansion, support for terrorism and the destruction of Israel. Last year, an Iranian served as a vice chair of the General Assembly’s legal committee, an inexplicable choice given that Iranian citizens are routinely denied due process and fair trials.

Knowing this history, perhaps we shouldn’t be surprised that, in the 2014-15 session alone, the General Assembly adopted about 20 resolutions critical of Israel, while the human rights situations in Iran, Syria and North Korea merited just one condemnation apiece. Day after day, member states turn a blind eye to the most deplorable crimes.

Iran? Just one hostile resolution for a nation that, on average, executes citizens at a rate of two a day for “crimes” that include homosexuality, apostasy and the vague offense of being an “enemy of God.”



North Korea? Just one negative resolution even though it has imprisoned more than 200,000 citizens, throws children into forced labor camps and subjects its population to food shortages and famine as a result of government policies.

Syria? Again, just one resolution for a government that has pursued a war against its own people that has caused the deaths of at least 220,000 men, women and children — many by torture, starvation, chemical weapons and barrel bombs dropped on markets and schools.

Christians now number among the world’s most persecuted religious groups in Muslim countries, yet this human rights crisis is almost completely ignored by the United Nations. Instead, Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East and an area in the region where the Christian population is actually growing, often seems to be the only nation the United Nations cares about.

Nowhere is anti-Israel bias more obvious than in the Geneva-based Human Rights Council. The council addresses the human rights abuses of all countries in the world under a program known as Agenda Item 4. That is, all countries but one. Israel is the only nation that is singled out for criticism by virtue of a special program, known as Agenda Item 7. A result, according to the Geneva-based monitoring group UN Watch, is that more than 50 percent of all condemnatory resolutions are directed at the Jewish state.

Following last summer’s conflict in Gaza, the Human Rights Council established a Commission of Inquiry and selected William Schabas, a Canadian law professor, to chair the investigation. In February, Mr. Schabas was forced to resign after documents came to light revealing that, in 2012, he had done consulting work for the Palestine Liberation Organization. Surprisingly, this fact slipped Mr. Schabas’s mind during his vetting process.

It was clear from the outset that Mr. Schabas was not an impartial arbiter since he had a record of public statements suggesting that Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, and the former president, Shimon Peres, should face trial at the International Criminal Court. When Israel protested, however, the United Nations ignored it.

I am often asked how I can stand the tide of hatred aimed at Israel. Our response to the United Nations’ accusations is to speak tirelessly for those who are denied a voice in most of the Middle East — women, minorities, the L.G.B.T. community — and to fight daily efforts by totalitarian regimes to undermine democratic societies. Based on the fact that Israel is a thriving society, I believe we are winning.



Later this year, chairmanship of the Non-Aligned Movement will transfer to Venezuela, Iran’s ally. For the foreseeable future, we can expect more of the same.

The problem with the United Nations is that the leaders of many of its member states do not rule with the consent of the governed. Instead, they use the body as a forum to deflect attention from their own ruthless rule. In so doing, they turn a stage for courageous statecraft into a tragic theater of the absurd.

Ron Prosor is Israel’s ambassador to the United Nations.

@whodey

Just to clarify, you think Israels treatment at the UN is worse than the Jewish peoples treatment under the Nazi regime?

@proper-knob said
@whodey

Just to clarify, you think Israels treatment at the UN is worse than the Jewish peoples treatment under the Nazi regime?

The UN is on course to deliver the Zionist state into the hands of countries like Iran.

And yes, if and when that happens there will be a second Holocaust, but it is a tad bit hard to do now since the people atop Masada have nukes.

@proper-knob said
@whodey

Just to clarify, you think Israels treatment at the UN is worse than the Jewish peoples treatment under the Nazi regime?

At one point in time, they coexisted with each other, in the course of time that changed.

@kellyjay said
At one point in time, they coexisted with each other, in the course of time that changed.

It seems like the change occurred when the Grand Mufti Amin Husseieni joined Hitler to help eradicate the Zionists from creating their own country.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-mufti-and-the-f-uuml-hrer

His nephew became Yassar Arafat and the rest is history.