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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/22/cult-leader-vissarion-reincarnation-jesus-arrested-siberia-russia

    Persecution or justice?
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    @divegeester said
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/22/cult-leader-vissarion-reincarnation-jesus-arrested-siberia-russia

    Persecution or justice?
    "Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

    For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    Behold, I have told you before.

    Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

    For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." -- Matthew 24:23-27, KJV

    "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen." -- Revelation 1:7, KJV
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    @suzianne said
    "Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

    For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    Behold, I have told you before.

    Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: beho ...[text shortened]... him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen." -- Revelation 1:7, KJV
    Agreed.

    That... and he looks more like a Rasputin than a Christ.
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    @suzianne said
    "Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

    For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    Behold, I have told you before.

    Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: beho ...[text shortened]... him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen." -- Revelation 1:7, KJV
    So justice then?
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    @divegeester said
    So justice then?
    Not necessarily, he could be a con man, or he could be someone wanting to help people. I can't look into his soul. But he's definitely not Jesus, the Christ.
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    @suzianne said
    Not necessarily, he could be a con man, or he could be someone wanting to help people. I can't look into his soul. But he's definitely not Jesus, the Christ.
    I would not have thought that pretending to be Jesus Christ was an offence.
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    @divegeester said
    I would not have thought that pretending to be Jesus Christ was an offence.
    In some countries claiming to be the prophet Mohammed could be an offense.
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    @divegeester said
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/22/cult-leader-vissarion-reincarnation-jesus-arrested-siberia-russia

    Persecution or justice?
    from my reading of the article, he wasn't arrested for claiming to be jesus or vissarion or djtrump

    "Russia’s investigative committee said it would charge him with organising an illegal religious organisation, alleging that the cult extorted money from followers and subjected them to emotional abuse."

    the reporting makes it sound like fraud, not blasphemy
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    @vivify said
    In some countries claiming to be the prophet Mohammed could be an offense.
    That’s a very interesting piece of irrelevant information.
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    @rookie54 said
    from my reading of the article, he wasn't arrested for claiming to be jesus or vissarion or djtrump

    "Russia’s investigative committee said it would charge him with organising an illegal religious organisation, alleging that the cult extorted money from followers and subjected them to emotional abuse."

    the reporting makes it sound like fraud, not blasphemy
    Well done on actually reading it. Yes, fraud.

    He looks just like Jesus though, spitting image.
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    @divegeester said
    I would not have thought that pretending to be Jesus Christ was an offence.
    Obviously the Russian authorities think so.

    “I am not God. And it is a mistake to see Jesus as God. But I am the living word of God the father. Everything that God wants to say, he says through me,”

    Clearly the man is a fake. Why be offended by that? The article gave no specifics about why "Jesus" was arrested. Perhaps the Russian authorities are atheists that recognize a phony when they see one. Obviously his followers don't.
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