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    God’s Creation

    Meniscus bulging. Bulb expanding.
    Tail squeezing, belly swelling.
    Transparent, occasional silvery-blue.
    A short life span. Gravity will see to it.
    Cause and effect.
    Its meaninglessness filled with profundity.
    Simplicity, elemental and pure.
    Inevitably, a separation into free-fall.
    Hurtling towards the void.
    Form demolished.
    A disconnect reaching for nothing.
    Oblivion, the endpoint of the everlasting creation, destruction cycle.
    Energy conserved and transferred.
    The system greatly affected, ripples agitated vibrationally.
    No loved ones left behind, no genes passed on, no relationships.
    No memories, no guilt.
    No regrets, no angst.
    No trace.
    Just a fleeting conformation of nature’s laws.
    What is creation?

    ~ by a friend of mine who doesn't post here
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    @FMF

    Thumbs up for fatalistic nihilism.
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    @secondson said
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    Thumbs up for fatalistic nihilism.
    The writer believes in a creator being and in some sort of continuation of our existence after death but he doesn't subscribe to the religious dogma which you just so happen to have absorbed from your environment, rote-learned, internalized and which you regurgitate here like a snarling sports fan. Thumbs up for his open-mindedness, curiosity and his burgeoning talents as a writer.
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    @fmf said
    The writer believes in a creator being and in some sort of continuation of our existence after death but he doesn't subscribe to the religious dogma which you just so happen to have absorbed from your environment, rote-learned, internalized and which you regurgitate here like a snarling sports fan. Thumbs up for his open-mindedness, curiosity and his burgeoning talents as a writer.
    How obtuse can you be?

    "The writer believes in a creator being..."

    So you say, but there is no evidence of that in His so-called poem.

    "...and in some sort of continuation of our existence after death..."

    And where in the "poem" is that indicated?

    "...but he doesn't subscribe to the religious dogma..."

    Then what "dogma" does he "subscribe" to? To what, or who, does he credit his inspiration? Who is this "creator being" he "believes" in, and how does he know it exists?

    "...which you just so happen to have absorbed from your environment, rote-learned, internalized and..."

    And at least I have the integrity to cite the source of my inspiration.

    "...which you regurgitate here like a snarling sports fan."

    Your perceptions are skewed by your "environment, rote-learned, internalized" and blind acceptance of the lie that the Bible isn't the Word of God.

    "Thumbs up for his open-mindedness, curiosity and his burgeoning talents as a writer."

    Gag me.
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    @secondson said
    How obtuse can you be?

    "The writer believes in a creator being..."

    So you say, but there is no evidence of that in His so-called poem.

    "...and in some sort of continuation of our existence after death..."

    And where in the "poem" is that indicated?
    So, here I am telling you these things. Bear it in mind when you read it.
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    @secondson said
    Then what "dogma" does he "subscribe" to? To what, or who, does he credit his inspiration? Who is this "creator being" he "believes" in, and how does he know it exists?
    I think the term "deist" applies to him pretty well. I think the nature of the universe is one of the main things that underpin his belief.
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    @secondson said
    Your perceptions are skewed by your "environment, rote-learned, internalized" and blind acceptance of the lie that the Bible isn't the Word of God.
    My environment is choc a bloc with Christians. Always has been.
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    @secondson said
    And at least I have the integrity to cite the source of my inspiration.
    I'll pass on to him the fact that you believe he lacks integrity compared to you.
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    @fmf said
    I think the term "deist" applies to him pretty well. I think the nature of the universe is one of the main things that underpin his belief.
    So now it appears I'm debating with an alleged deist through an agnostic-atheist. When did we go from discussing the subject of the OP to discussing the author of that dreadful post?
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    @fmf said
    I'll pass on to him the fact that you believe he lacks integrity compared to you.
    Why don't you ask him to speak for himself.
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    @secondson said
    So now it appears I'm debating with an alleged deist through an agnostic-atheist. When did we go from discussing the subject of the OP to discussing the author of that dreadful post?
    I don't perceive what you are doing as "debating".
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    @secondson said
    Why don't you ask him to speak for himself.
    To you? Here? He's not interested.

    Now you know a little bit more about him ~ he's more or less a "deist", for example ~ how does it affect the meaning of his your words in your mind?
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