1. The Ghost Chamber
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    @secondson said
    Implications aside sir, I won't get hung up on semantics.

    Nothing's wrong with equality. "All things" are not equal.
    There is certainly parity between the sexes.
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    @divegeester
    11) I've envisage you as being a dumpy sort of guy, projecting your persona of spiritual muscularity, a driver possibly of public transport with your keys dangling on one of those belt clips, maybe even a chain of sorts."

    12) "Do share your research".

    13) "You seem to be channelling robbie carrobie here"

    14) "Without you misrepresentation of scripture your thread title and OP have no thrust.
    You may as well have just said "the bible is the most printed book in the world" which would have been more technically correct than using "published" and wouldn't have made you appear to be a twister of scripture.
    Are you going to call me another name now or will you again tell me you love me with your Christian brotherly love?"

    15) "Don't be such a pompous virtue-signalling male-chauvinist dick.
    Treat women as equals; debate and argue with them as you would anyone. I'm frequently crossing swords with Suzianne and Drewnogal and they enjoy the banter and cut and trust as much as anyone else here."

    Bickerbitching spam posts #'s 11-15 page 5.
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    @secondson said
    @divegeester
    11) I've envisage you as being a dumpy sort of guy, projecting your persona of spiritual muscularity, a driver possibly of public transport with your keys dangling on one of those belt clips, maybe even a chain of sorts."

    12) "Do share your research".

    13) "You seem to be channelling robbie carrobie here"
    14) "Without you misrepresentation of scripture y ...[text shortened]... banter and cut and trust as much as anyone else here."
    Bickerbitching spam posts #'s 11-15 page 5.
    I know you are upset, but you shouldn't be misrepresenting scripture in order to make a point.
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    @divegeester said
    I know you are upset, but you shouldn't be misrepresenting scripture in order to make a point.
    Bickerbitching spam post #16

    4 : complaint
    Examples
    That word is a bitch to spell.
    tiresome members of the tour group who had one bitch after another
    Origin: Middle English bicche, from Old English bicce.
    First use: before 12th century
    Synonyms: beef, complaint, bleat, carp, fuss, grievance, gripe, grouch, grouse, grumble, holler, kvetch, lament, miserere, moan, murmur, plaint, squawk, wail, whimper, whine, whinge [British], yammer.

    I didn't misrepresent scripture. I quoted Mark 13:10. You misrepresented the inferences of the OP by bickerbitching through the entire thread with unsubstantiated assertions simply because you don't have the intellectual integrity to speak to the assertions made and address the topic.

    What you can't deny is the fact that the Bible has been "published", so you laid hold on a word and tried to gain traction with it as a means of detracting away from the truth of the OP.

    The truth is the Bible has always been "published", either by scribes or printing press, more, by at least double, than any 10 books written by man combined.

    I'm right, and that obviously frustrates the hell out of you.

    You have no argument. Just divisive bickerbitching spam posting.
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    @secondson said
    Bickerbitching spam post #16

    4 : complaint
    Examples
    That word is a bitch to spell.
    tiresome members of the tour group who had one bitch after another
    Origin: Middle English bicche, from Old English bicce.
    First use: before 12th century
    Synonyms: beef, complaint, bleat, carp, fuss, grievance, gripe, grouch, grouse, grumble, holler, kvetch, lament, miserere, moan, mu ...[text shortened]... frustrates the hell out of you.

    You have no argument. Just divisive bickerbitching spam posting.
    Favorite sweets are probably bickerbitch allsorts. Best thing to come of Sheffield though.
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    There is certainly parity between the sexes.
    In what way(s)?
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    @secondson said
    I didn't misrepresent scripture. I quoted Mark 13:10.
    It’s a very marginal translation. But ok I’ll concede.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Mark%2013:10
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    I'm right, and that obviously frustrates the hell out of you.
    If you were an intellectual rival then perhaps it might.
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    @divegeester said
    My bibles say preached and a quick online search and review says preached.
    The Authorized King James Version does have it as published [1]. The New International Version has it as preached [2]. BibleHub gives Young's literal translation [3]:
    and to all the nations it behoveth first that the good news be proclaimed.

    BibleHub gives the Greek as [4]:
    καὶ εἰς πάντα τὰ ethnē ἔθνη prōton πρῶτον δεῖ κηρυχθῆναι τὸ εὐαγγέλιον.

    And the relevant word here is "κηρυχθῆναι" which they give the definition: To proclaim, herald, preach. Of uncertain affinity; to herald, especially divine truth [5].

    I tend to believe Strong, so "proclaim" is probably the best translation. The translation as "publish" seems to be a peculiarity of the King James' version, but I think publish is reasonable enough since publishing a newspaper fulfills the same purpose as a herald did before printing was invented.

    [1] https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+13%3A10&version=AKJV
    [2] https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+13%3A10&version=NIV
    [3] https://biblehub.com/ylt/mark/13.htm
    [4] https://biblehub.com/interlinear/mark/13-10.htm
    [5] https://biblehub.com/parallel/mark/13-10.htm
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    i wonder what it might have been like to experience his lecture
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    @deepthought said
    The Authorized King James Version does have it as published [1]. The New International Version has it as preached [2]. BibleHub gives Young's literal translation [3]:
    and to all the nations it behoveth first that the good news be proclaimed.

    BibleHub gives the Greek as [4]:[quote]καὶ εἰς πάντα τὰ ethnē ἔθνη prōton πρῶτον δεῖ κηρυχθῆναι τὸ εὐ ...[text shortened]... 4] https://biblehub.com/interlinear/mark/13-10.htm
    [5] https://biblehub.com/parallel/mark/13-10.htm
    I have conceded the technicality, but it is a technicality because the writers at the time were not prophesying printing presses they were predicting the Lord's return in line with Gospel proclamation to all people.
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    @secondson said
    In what way(s)?
    In every way. (And yes, I am aware of differences in factors like physical strength). There is certainly parity when it comes to such issues as being fit for combat etc.
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    In every way. (And yes, I am aware of differences in factors like physical strength). There is certainly parity when it comes to such issues as being fit for combat etc.
    IMO, parity denotes equal value, rather than sameness. The problems arise when parity is not recognized or acknowledged, whether by expression or access to opportunity.
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    @secondson said
    But you bicker over a single word like a frustrated bitch.
    Bumping this post to keep it and it the thread alive.
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    @divegeester said
    Bumping this post to keep it and it the thread alive.
    All the opponents tapped out and there's no one left to fight. 😯
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