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@chaney3 removed their quoted postIsn't "predestination" simply a way of referring to the fact that an omniscient [and perhaps intervening] creator entity, not bound by time, future or past ~ like the Christian, Islamic and Jewish God figures ~ already has knowledge of what will happen [and will have happened at any given point in the future] as a result of people exercising their "free will"?
@chaney3 removed their quoted postThat's not how God created man dum dum.
@fmf saidNo.
Isn't "predestination" simply a way of referring to the fact that an omniscient [and perhaps intervening] creator entity, not bound by time, future or past ~ like the Christian, Islamic and Jewish God figures ~ already has knowledge of what will happen [and will have happened at any given point in the future] as a result of people exercising their "free will"?
@chaney3 removed their quoted postTo create someone who can love, and their love is authentic, they also have to be able to say no. If not, it wouldn't be real, authentic; it would be forced entirely; this is what God is doing; not wanting anyone to fall is real, but equally authentic, are those that fall do so with the ability to come to God, and do not when He calls.
@fmf saidThat is how I view it.
Isn't "predestination" simply a way of referring to the fact that an omniscient [and perhaps intervening] creator entity, not bound by time, future or past ~ like the Christian, Islamic and Jewish God figures ~ already has knowledge of what will happen [and will have happened at any given point in the future] as a result of people exercising their "free will"?
@kellyjay saidHypothetically, it's the only way I see how "free will" and "predestination" can co-exist.
That is how I view it.
@fmf saidI agree with your assessment.
Hypothetically, it's the only way I see how "free will" and "predestination" can co-exist.
@chaney3 removed their quoted post1) Does Christian/biblical god exist?
@chaney3 removed their quoted postI think the Christian theology is that it is the exercise of "free will" that decides a human's destiny, the nature of the aforementioned "eternity in hell" notwithstanding.
@chaney3 removed their quoted postIs it because I called you dum dum that you're ignoring my reply to your OP?