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    26 Aug '21 12:41
    @sonship said
    @Ghost-of-a-Duke


    The rumors I have been hearing is that you were in fact a fraud as a Mental Health specialist. Some have informed me that you touted being experienced in this area but were some kind of pretentious charlatan instead.
    I have worked for over 20 years in the mental health field. There are no rumours to the contrary.

    In contrast, Witness Lee is clearly a charlatan who has corrupted your understanding of the Bible. This has been evidenced on multiple occasions.
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    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    Brother Lee lived by faith in the providing God to give his full time to minister to people for about 64 years.
    This included time captured and tortured by the Japanese in mainland China. You have your 20 and he has his 64.

    On this forum I have heard compaints against your exaggeration of your expertise in the field. Do you have a body of writings in which we could examine any written contributions to the field?

    And once again the question which you avoid -

    What Christian teacher then would you recommend to me as presenting a far truer explanation of God, Christ and His salvation? If the answer is - NOBODY then your critique of Witness Lee as untrue, not up to the standard of orthodoxy, is worthless gossip mongering.

    So recommend then a TRUE presenter of the salvation of Christ to God and the divine plan of God.
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    26 Aug '21 14:22
    @sonship said
    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    Brother Lee lived by faith in the providing God to give his full time to minister to people for about 64 years.
    This included time captured and tortured by the Japanese in mainland China. You have your 20 and he has his 64.

    On this forum I have heard compaints against your exaggeration of your expertise in the field. Do you have a body of writing ...[text shortened]... recommend then a TRUE presenter of the salvation of Christ to God and the divine plan of God.
    Romans once trolled all the personal information I shared on these forums, with no valid reason for doing so. That is on him, not me.

    There are many interesting Christian writers who stick faithfully to the religious text (Unlike the charlatan Witness Lee). But it's just academic to me. There is no true salvation of Christ or divine plan of God.
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    There are many interesting Christian writers who stick faithfully to the religious text (Unlike the charlatan Witness Lee). But it's just academic to me. There is no true salvation of Christ or divine plan of God.


    Which man BETTER represents the teaching of the Bible - Witness Lee or Ghost of a Duke?

    In accordance to the Bible Lee has taught there is God and a plan of salvation.

    Ghost of a Duke crying "false prophet" about Witness Lee says there is no God and no plan of God of salvation.

    1.) So reader WHICH one of these two men better represents faithfully what is taught in the Bible?

    2.) Which one is more candidate for unfaithfully MISREPRESENTING the teaching of the Bible?
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    27 Aug '21 07:14
    @sonship said
    There are many interesting Christian writers who stick faithfully to the religious text (Unlike the charlatan Witness Lee). But it's just academic to me. There is no true salvation of Christ or divine plan of God.


    Which man BETTER represents the teaching of the Bible - Witness Lee or Ghost of a Duke?

    In accordance to the Bible Lee has taught there ...[text shortened]... 2.)[/b] Which one is more candidate for unfaithfully MISREPRESENTING the teaching of the Bible?
    Well, only Witness Lee has tried to add to the Bible and deceive fellow Christians.

    As an atheist, people know where I stand.
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    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    I do not know exactly where you stand.
    I don't really care anymore because you dodge questions that could help me locate exactly where you stand.
    I mean other than in gossiping bigoty.

    If I press you to example some serious addition to the Bible's text by Witness Lee you will probably not be able to do it.

    Your monotonous inability to substantially locate biblical error is pretty obvious. "Regurgitate! Regurgitate! Regurgitate Witness Lee" is ALL you can do.

    You cannot contrast to compare many things written here with who you would consider a thoroughly MORE orthodox Chrtistian.

    So since ALL spokesman for the New Testament and the Bible are FALSE by definition to your atheism, why should anyone be concerned?

    "Oh but I am an atheist" is just a cop out. I bet you cannot even successfully DEFINE your own philosophy of atheism.
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    27 Aug '21 13:37
    @sonship said
    "Oh but I am an atheist" is just a cop out. I bet you cannot even successfully DEFINE your own philosophy of atheism.
    Gods were invented by men. That is my philosophy of atheism.
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    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    Gods were invented by men. That is my philosophy of atheism.


    That is too general to define atheism.
    Its a dodge.
    Its a side step to avoid defining your philosophy.

    "People invented Gods" does not prove there is no God.
    The Bible itself records that people invent gods.

    You were a bit sly to avoid saying that ALL Gods were invented by people.
    I saw you.

    So what is atheism? (without a sly dodge).
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    29 Aug '21 07:45
    @sonship said
    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    Gods were invented by men. That is my philosophy of atheism.


    That is too general to define atheism.
    Its a dodge.
    Its a side step to avoid defining your philosophy.

    "People invented Gods" does not prove there is no God.
    The Bible itself records that people invent gods.

    You were a bit sly to avoid saying that ALL Gods were invented by people.
    I saw you.

    So what is atheism? (without a sly dodge).
    You don't get to define my atheism. I gave you my answer.

    All gods/God were invented by man. All of them.
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    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    Define atheism.
    Is it the truth claim that all gods/Gods were invented by men?

    What's wrong with defining atheism as the belief that God does not exist?
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    30 Aug '21 07:29
    @sonship said
    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    Define atheism.
    Is it the truth claim that all gods/Gods were invented by men?

    What's wrong with defining atheism as the belief that God does not exist?
    Atheism is the certain knowledge that gods/God does not exist based on empirical evidence within the evolved brain.

    How's that?
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    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    Its a question begging definition imo.
    Standard cyclopedia on it or philosophical terms will do for me.

    Ie. https://www.britannica.com/topic/atheism

    atheism, in general, the critique and denial of metaphysical beliefs in God or spiritual beings. As such, it is usually distinguished from theism, which affirms the reality of the divine and often seeks to demonstrate its existence.
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    30 Aug '21 12:37
    @sonship said
    @Ghost-of-a-Duke

    Its a question begging definition imo.
    Standard cyclopedia on it or philosophical terms will do for me.

    Ie. https://www.britannica.com/topic/atheism

    atheism, in general, the critique and denial of metaphysical beliefs in God or spiritual beings. As such, it is usually distinguished from theism, which affirms the reality of the divine and often seeks to demonstrate its existence.
    I reject the God you believe in which is not based on any tangible scientific reasoning and is a common human invention to make the world a less scary place. So if you insist on a definition of atheism, then that's it. A rejection of what you believe in.
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