04 Feb '19 15:54>
@FMF
Physically you see.
Spiritually, God is incoherent to you.
You've repeated that many times. Or God's final redemption and final judgment are "incoherent" you say.
Some of these posts have at the right a little Thumbs Up to stand for someone's approval and a Thumbs Down to stand for someone's disapproval.
I don't like to use the example, but it is relevant. There is a universal thumbs up and a universal thumbs down.
The Bible speaks to this and you find it "incoherent".
Or to be fair, perhaps you don't believe it could be coherent unless it is you making the final decision. But the final decision is not yours. And you are not the center of all reality and the universe. Neither am I the center.
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And then on top of that, you are trying to threaten me with being supernaturally tortured for eternity unless I also believe the star exists. [/quote]
This has not worked. Penalty for breaking civil law is not merely a threat. It is warning of penalty.
If you break the speed limit you won't do well to appear before a traffic judge complaining that you didn't appreciate his threatening you with speed limit signs.
In fact the judge may even be a relative of yours. But the law is the law. And a penalty is affixed to the crime of speeding and a it is well published. You may complain that someone didn't know. But you are not that person.
That is imperfect law in human society. Perfect law from God is without mistake. So I spend at least equal time to study all that God has done (and He has done quite much) that I would not be caught in the penalty of rebellion against God and His law.
Now I just received an important phone call and must immediately suspend all other activity.
I am not blind. And I can see the sun. So can you. You are like someone who is making claims about a sun/star so far away that absolutely no one has any evidence that it exists.
Physically you see.
Spiritually, God is incoherent to you.
You've repeated that many times. Or God's final redemption and final judgment are "incoherent" you say.
Some of these posts have at the right a little Thumbs Up to stand for someone's approval and a Thumbs Down to stand for someone's disapproval.
I don't like to use the example, but it is relevant. There is a universal thumbs up and a universal thumbs down.
The Bible speaks to this and you find it "incoherent".
Or to be fair, perhaps you don't believe it could be coherent unless it is you making the final decision. But the final decision is not yours. And you are not the center of all reality and the universe. Neither am I the center.
quote]
And then on top of that, you are trying to threaten me with being supernaturally tortured for eternity unless I also believe the star exists. [/quote]
This has not worked. Penalty for breaking civil law is not merely a threat. It is warning of penalty.
If you break the speed limit you won't do well to appear before a traffic judge complaining that you didn't appreciate his threatening you with speed limit signs.
In fact the judge may even be a relative of yours. But the law is the law. And a penalty is affixed to the crime of speeding and a it is well published. You may complain that someone didn't know. But you are not that person.
That is imperfect law in human society. Perfect law from God is without mistake. So I spend at least equal time to study all that God has done (and He has done quite much) that I would not be caught in the penalty of rebellion against God and His law.
Now I just received an important phone call and must immediately suspend all other activity.