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    In your view, if the attack on Salman Rushdie is what God wanted, is it righteous?
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    @fmf said
    In your view, if the attack on Salman Rushdie is what God wanted, is it righteous?
    IMHO - There is no way of knowing if the attack on Salman Rushdie is what God wanted or not, because of this, the question of its righteousness cannot be determined.
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    @mchill said
    IMHO - There is no way of knowing if the attack on Salman Rushdie is what God wanted or not, because of this, the question of its righteousness cannot be determined.
    If the attacker believed he was simply carrying out his God figure's will, was the man's motive pure
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    @fmf said
    If the attacker believed he was simply carrying out his God figure's will, was the man's motive pure
    I doubt it. There are very few circumstances in either the Quran or the Bible that suggests attacking or killing another was to be considered an act of carrying out God will, and many that advocate God should be the judge, jury and (if necessary) executioner.
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    @mchill said
    I doubt it. There are very few circumstances in either the Quran or the Bible that suggests attacking or killing another was to be considered an act of carrying out God will, and many that advocate God should be the judge, jury and (if necessary) executioner.
    There are very few circumstances in [...] the Quran [...] that suggest attacking or killing another was to be considered an act of carrying out God will.

    Gosh. You reckon?
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    @fmf said
    There are very few circumstances in [...] the Quran [...] that suggest attacking or killing another was to be considered an act of carrying out God will.

    Gosh. You reckon?
    Abraham and Isaac, for example. But that was to test Abraham’s faith, not get Isaac killed. I doubt that the assailant in Rushdie’s case was being tested by God.
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    @mchill said
    I doubt it. There are very few circumstances in either the Quran or the Bible that suggests attacking or killing another was to be considered an act of carrying out God will, and many that advocate God should be the judge, jury and (if necessary) executioner.
    KellyJay believes it is God’s will for the state to execute people for certain crimes.
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    @divegeester said
    KellyJay believes it is God’s will for the state to execute people for certain crimes.
    Do you believe that you are one of God's tests for the rest of us?
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    @kevin-eleven said
    Do you believe that you are one of God's tests for the rest of us?
    You seem upset in this thread too.
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    @kevin-eleven said
    Do you believe that you are one of God's tests for the rest of us?
    I believe my presence here gives you your daily boner.
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    @mchill said
    I doubt it. There are very few circumstances in either the Quran or the Bible that suggests attacking or killing another was to be considered an act of carrying out God will, and many that advocate God should be the judge, jury and (if necessary) executioner.
    Are you serious?

    I don't know about the Quran, but the Bible is chock full of righteous murders in God's name and for God's will.
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    @fmf said
    In your view, if the attack on Salman Rushdie is what God wanted, is it righteous?
    While bad things do occur due to the free will of men being exercised in a sinful and improper way, the contention would be that these things can still be a means of repentance for the people involved, and anything which can be used to learn and grow is not without benefit.

    I understand that some people would find this radical - some people want to literally "Oh no, bad thing. Guess <everything is ruined> and <there's no lesson here for anyone.>" But, nah, I think every instance, even ones that went unwitnessed but can be thought of in terms of abstractions or parallels, can serve as a means of repentance and as a means of motivation for better rectification of the self, and better treatment of others.
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    @philokalia said
    While bad things do occur due to the free will of men being exercised in a sinful and improper way, the contention would be that these things can still be a means of repentance for the people involved, and anything which can be used to learn and grow is not without benefit.

    I understand that some people would find this radical - some people want to literally "Oh ...[text shortened]... e and as a means of motivation for better rectification of the self, and better treatment of others.
    An answer to the OP question would have been more interesting.
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    @mchill said
    I doubt it. There are very few circumstances in either the Quran or the Bible that suggests attacking or killing another was to be considered an act of carrying out God will, and many that advocate God should be the judge, jury and (if necessary) executioner.
    https://thebiblesays.com/commentary/exod/exod-32/exodus-3225-29/

    Exodus 32:25-29

    Moses then told the Levites,“Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, ‘Every man of you put his sword upon his thigh, and go back and forth from gate to gate in the camp, and kill every man his brother, and every man his friend, and every man his neighbor.’”
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