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    @humy said
    It says at the bottom of that link;

    "Disclaimer: The contents of this article are of sole responsibility of the author(s). The Centre for Research on Globalization will not be responsible for any inaccurate or incorrect statement in this article. "

    In other words, The Centre for Research that made this link didn't bother to check the scientific validity of the authors clai ...[text shortened]... The one study that didn't find the evidence typically didn't look in the right place.

    Try again.
    That is a general disclaimer on every article from GR. The article has every source of information on that link. I'll post some of those links here.

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

    https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/masking-lack-of-evidence-with-politics/

    https://www.uea.ac.uk/about/-/new-study-reveals-blueprint-for-getting-out-of-covid-19-lockdown

    In fact, that link I posted has so much sources to prove what they write is accurate I can't post them all here. I would be here all day copy and pasting science articles.

    You really should read at least some of a link I post so you don't embarrass yourself making false claims about it.
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    @metal-brain said
    That is a general disclaimer on every article from GR. The article has every source of information on that link. I'll post some of those links here.

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

    https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/masking-lack-of-evidence-with-politics/

    https://www.uea.ac.uk/about/-/new-study-reveals-blueprint-for-getting-out-of-covid-19-lockd ...[text shortened]... ld read at least some of a link I post so you don't embarrass yourself making false claims about it.
    none of those links invalidate the overwhelming evidence that masks ARE effective.
    As I just said;
    "
    For every 10 studies showing evidence for x, you can often find at least 1 study that failed to find evidence; that doesn't contradict or invalidate the evidence the 10 found; The one study that didn't find the evidence typically didn't look in the right place.
    "
    You make no point.
    Try again.
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    Surgeon general: Data doesn't back up wearing masks in public amid coronavirus pandemic

    He then explained the reasons why.

    “On an individual level, there was a study in 2015 looking at medical students and medical students wearing surgical masks touch their face on average 23 times,” Adams explained. “We know a major way that you can get respiratory diseases like coronavirus is by touching a surface and then touching your face so wearing a mask improperly can actually increase your risk of getting disease.”
    Adams went on to say that wearing a face mask “can also give you a false sense of security." He added that "you see many of these pictures with people out and about closer than six feet to each other, but still wearing a mask.”

    He noted that there are also consequences to wearing masks.

    “We still have PPE [Personal protective equipment] shortages across the country,” Adams noted. “The WHO mentioned this in their statement so we want to make sure we are reserving PPE for the people who most need it. That's how you are going to get the largest effect because if healthcare workers get sick, they can't take care of you when you get sick.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/surgeon-general-explains-masks-public-coronavirus

    Face masks may actually do more harm than good. U.S. Last March Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams explained why the CDC and WHO did not recommend the general public wear masks and how doing so could increase your virus risk.

    They were telling us the truth back then and they are lying now.
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    @metal-brain said
    Surgeon general: Data doesn't back up wearing masks in public amid coronavirus pandemic

    He then explained the reasons why.

    “On an individual level, there was a study in 2015 looking at medical students and medical students wearing surgical masks touch their face on average 23 times,” Adams explained. “We know a major way that you can get respiratory diseases like co ...[text shortened]... could increase your virus risk.

    They were telling us the truth back then and they are lying now.
    copy, paste, repeat what I just said.
    You make no point.
    Try again.
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    Surgeon general: Data doesn't back up wearing masks in public amid coronavirus pandemic

    He then explained the reasons why.

    “On an individual level, there was a study in 2015 looking at medical students and medical students wearing surgical masks touch their face on average 23 times,” Adams explained. “We know a major way that you can get respiratory diseases like coronavirus is by touching a surface and then touching your face so wearing a mask improperly can actually increase your risk of getting disease.”
    Adams went on to say that wearing a face mask “can also give you a false sense of security." He added that "you see many of these pictures with people out and about closer than six feet to each other, but still wearing a mask.”

    He noted that there are also consequences to wearing masks.

    “We still have PPE [Personal protective equipment] shortages across the country,” Adams noted. “The WHO mentioned this in their statement so we want to make sure we are reserving PPE for the people who most need it. That's how you are going to get the largest effect because if healthcare workers get sick, they can't take care of you when you get sick.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/surgeon-general-explains-masks-public-coronavirus

    Face masks may actually do more harm than good. U.S. Last March Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams explained why the CDC and WHO did not recommend the general public wear masks and how doing so could increase your virus risk.
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    @metal-brain said
    Data doesn't back up wearing masks in public amid coronavirus pandemic
    This claim has already been repeatedly debunked. Pretending the debunk doesn't exist doesn't make it or the evidence go away. Copy, paste, repeating my past posts and what I already said;

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02801-8
    Face masks: what the data say
    The science supports that face coverings are saving lives during the coronavirus pandemic,
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover-guidance.html
    Evidence for Effectiveness of Masks
    ...emerging evidence from clinical and laboratory studies that shows masks reduce the spray of droplets when worn over the nose and mouth.
    https://theconversation.com/masks-help-stop-the-spread-of-coronavirus-the-science-is-simple-and-im-one-of-100-experts-urging-governors-to-require-public-mask-wearing-138507
    The evidence
    ...There are numerous studies that suggest if 80% of people wear a mask in public, then COVID-19 transmission could be halted.
    ...laboratory and epidemiological evidence...
    https://www.europeanscientist.com/en/public-health/how-effective-are-face-masks-at-slowing-spread-of-coronavirus/
    By far, the strongest evidence for mask-wearing can be found in real-world data or so-called epidemiologic data. Leffler and colleagues analysed data on demographics, testing, lockdowns, and the public wearing of masks from 196 countries and found that countries with cultural norms or government policies supporting public mask-wearing had much lower per-capita mortality rates (1)
    ...
    Another study from Germany reported that face masks reduced the number of newly registered SARS‐CoV‐2 infections by between 15 and 75 per cent over a 20-day period after their mandatory introduction (2). Overall, the authors estimate that face masks reduce the daily growth rate of reported infections by around 47 per cent.
    ...
    The general consensus seems to be that masks – even, simple cloth ones – while clearly not foolproof can significantly slow the spread of the virus and reduce deaths

    (1) Leffler, C.T. et al. Association of country-wide coronavirus mortality with demographics, testing, lockdowns, and public wearing of masks. Update August 4, 2020. medRxiv (2020). DOI: 10.1101/2020.05.22.20109231

    (2) Mitze, T. et al. Face Masks Considerably Reduce Covid-19 Cases in Germany: A Synthetic Control Method Approach. IZA Discussion Paper No. 13319 (2020). Available at SSRN: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3620634

    (3) Fischer, E.P. et al. Low-cost measurement of facemask efficacy for filtering expelled droplets during speech. Science Advancese (2020). DOI: 10.1126/sciadv.abd3083

    (4) Simha, P.P. and Rao, P.S.M. Universal trends in human cough airflows at large distances featured. Physics of Fluids (2020). DOI: 10.1063/5.0021666

    (5) Sickbert-Bennett, E.E. et al. Filtration Efficiency of Hospital Face Mask Alternatives Available for Use During the COVID-19 Pandemic. JAMA Internal Medicine (2020). DOI:
    ..."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/face-masks-really-do-matter-the-scientific-evidence-is-growing-11595083298
    Face Masks Really Do Matter. The Scientific Evidence Is Growing.
    Face masks are emerging as one of the most powerful weapons to fight the new coronavirus, with growing evidence that facial coverings help prevent transmission
    The research Dr. Redfield cited included a recently published study suggesting that universal use of surgical masks helped reduce rates of confirmed coronavirus infections among health-care workers at the Mass General Brigham health-care system in Massachusetts.
    Researchers from around the world have found many different kinds of masks can significantly reduce the spread of coronavirus,
    Their findings largely align with other recently published research.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/facemasks-shown-to-cut-spread-of-covid-19-9r92zfpb8
    Facemasks slow spread of coronavirus by 40 per cent, study shows

    The above shows the data shows wearing masks slows the coronavirus spread.
    That data also shows any study that didn't find it didn't find it because it simply didn't look at the data that shows wearing masks slows the coronavirus spread but rather is flawed and/or just lying for political reasons and/or just looked at some other data that happened to be relevant because it does nothing to invalidate the data that DOES show it slows the stread.
    Not looking at the data doesn't make it or the evidence go away. The data that shows wearing masks slows the coronavirus spread is plain to see and has been mentioned in the above links.
    Try again.
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    My above misedit;
    "DOES show it slows the stread. "
    should be
    "DOES show it slows the spread. "
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    yet another of my above misedits
    "that happened to be relevant"
    should be
    "that happened to be irrelevant"
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    Surgeon general: Data doesn't back up wearing masks in public amid coronavirus pandemic

    He then explained the reasons why.

    “On an individual level, there was a study in 2015 looking at medical students and medical students wearing surgical masks touch their face on average 23 times,” Adams explained. “We know a major way that you can get respiratory diseases like coronavirus is by touching a surface and then touching your face so wearing a mask improperly can actually increase your risk of getting disease.”
    Adams went on to say that wearing a face mask “can also give you a false sense of security." He added that "you see many of these pictures with people out and about closer than six feet to each other, but still wearing a mask.”

    He noted that there are also consequences to wearing masks.

    “We still have PPE [Personal protective equipment] shortages across the country,” Adams noted. “The WHO mentioned this in their statement so we want to make sure we are reserving PPE for the people who most need it. That's how you are going to get the largest effect because if healthcare workers get sick, they can't take care of you when you get sick.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/surgeon-general-explains-masks-public-coronavirus

    Face masks may actually do more harm than good. U.S. Last March Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams explained why the CDC and WHO did not recommend the general public wear masks and how doing so could increase your virus risk.
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    @metal-brain said
    Surgeon general: Data doesn't back up wearing masks in public amid coronavirus pandemic

    He then explained the reasons why.

    “On an individual level, there was a study in 2015 looking at medical students and medical students wearing surgical masks touch their face on average 23 times,” Adams explained. “We know a major way that you can get respiratory diseases like co ...[text shortened]... WHO did not recommend the general public wear masks and how doing so could increase your virus risk.
    copy, paste, repeat what I just said.
    You make no point.
    Try again.
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    What Anti-Maskers Would've Sounded Like on The Titanic;
    YouTube
    This anti-mask BS was never a debate about what the science shows.
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    @Metal-Brain
    So you figure the Surgeon General, who is a Trump sycophant, says masks do nothing, so you can continue to not use masks like your god Trump says.
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    https://www.globalresearch.ca/mask-giving-lung-cancer/5728541
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    @metal-brain said
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/mask-giving-lung-cancer/5728541
    All misinformation pure hearsay and fake news;
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/mask-giving-lung-cancer/5728541
    "...what I’m about to share was also stated in the most recent edition of Del Bigtree’s program..."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_Bigtree
    "...Del Matthew Bigtree is an American television and film producer and the CEO of the anti-vaccination group..."

    In other words, this source of information isn't from a scientist but a right-wing extremist moron like Trump; Right; we all here believe such an unscientific source from a non-expert right-wing extremist is a reliable source of scientific facts and never would spread propaganda and lies.
    We non-morons only listen to what the real science says.
    Where is the EVIDENCE, as in the actual data as opposed to mere hearsay, that face masks give you a significant risk of cancer and face masks kills more people by giving them cancer than saves them by lowering their risk of deadly infection? No evidence or references to evidence shown in that link; Just pure hearsay.

    Try again.
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    @humy said
    All misinformation pure hearsay and fake news;
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/mask-giving-lung-cancer/5728541
    "...what I’m about to share was also stated in the most recent edition of Del Bigtree’s program..."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_Bigtree
    "...Del Matthew Bigtree is an American television and film producer and the CEO of the anti-vaccination group..."

    In other ...[text shortened]... nfection? No evidence or references to evidence shown in that link; Just pure hearsay.

    Try again.
    The article was written by Guy Crittenden.

    You are promoting obviously transparent misinformation in an effort to mislead. Try again.
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