Seems to me that this study finds that natural immunity due to recovering from infection is a stronger immunity than vaccine:
In the case of the Beta variant, this form of SARS-CoV-2 was best neutralized by Natural Infection 2020 and 2021 sera with higher NAb titer levels. Although the Delta variant was neutralized well by Natural Infection 2020 and 2021 sera, levels of NAb titers were much lower when compared with the Alpha and Beta variants.
In summary, the results of the current study indicate that NAb titers elicited by CoronaVac are much lower when compared to natural infection.
@eladarsaid Seems to me that this study finds that natural immunity due to recovering from infection is a stronger immunity than vaccine:
In the case of the Beta variant, this form of SARS-CoV-2 was best neutralized by Natural Infection 2020 and 2021 sera with higher NAb titer levels. Although the Delta variant was neutralized well by Natural Infection 2020 and 2021 sera, levels of NAb ...[text shortened]... /news/20210719/Thai-study-looks-at-CoronaVac-vaccine-vs-natural-immunity-to-SARS-COV-2-variants.aspx
As long as you survive long enough to develop exposure based immunity and you do not develop any of the other long term complications from covid infection.
Is your point that we should go to covid parties instead of getting vaccinated?
An aside: the study related only to CoronaVac, made by Sinopharm. I don't believe its findings can be expected to apply to all the multiple types of vaccine already in use, let alone any future modifications.
@kevcvs57said As long as you survive long enough to develop exposure based immunity and you do not develop any of the other long term complications from covid infection.
Is your point that we should go to covid parties instead of getting vaccinated?
What percentage of covid cases result in death? How about a percentage for a 35 year old?
Do you know the answer to this question? Or is your opinion based on ignorance?
@eladarsaid What percentage of covid cases result in death? How about a percentage for a 35 year old?
Do you know the answer to this question? Or is your opinion based on ignorance?
97% of covid deaths in the Us are among the UNVACCINATED.
You’ve lost over half a million to COVID and that does not include those that survive with life changing conditions. Stop cowering behind percentages and spare a thought for the actual victims and their loved ones.
VACCINATION CUTS THE FATALITY RATE BY 97% there’s a percentage for you to think about
@kevcvs57said 97% of covid deaths in the Us are among the UNVACCINATED.
You’ve lost over half a million to COVID and that does not include those that survive with life changing conditions. Stop cowering behind percentages and spare a thought for the actual victims and their loved ones.
VACCINATION CUTS THE FATALITY RATE BY 97% there’s a percentage for you to think about
Tell me, how many 35 year olds have died from COVID in the US.
@eladarsaid Tell me, how many 35 year olds have died from COVID in the US.
Are you 35 I’d have put you as much older why is that age important to you and why do you keep asking a Brit about US figures.
A) do your own research and
B) why is this figure important to you
Regardless of any disparity by age in the death figures this disease running unchecked in any age group is much more likely to generate a variant that can evade whatever vaccines are on the go. The only way to eradicate or even control this virus is to give it nowhere to hide by vaccinating every age group.
@kevcvs57said Are you 35 I’d have put you as much older why is that age important to you and why do you keep asking a Brit about US figures.
A) do your own research and
B) why is this figure important to you
Regardless of any disparity by age in the death figures this disease running unchecked in any age group is much more likely to generate a variant that can evade whatever vaccines ...[text shortened]... o eradicate or even control this virus is to give it nowhere to hide by vaccinating every age group.
Age is important so that you can see how stupid all of this covid lock-down has been.
@Eladar We have gone over this vaccine deal a hundred times over and you refuse to believe anything we say.
THAT is pathological stubborness. It is clear when you are as pathological as you, deny is all you have. You do really need professional help.
That is not name calling. That is my opinion. You really need help. You are stuck in Trump land even though we are getting close to PROVING Trump is a criminal.
You cannot EVER accept that since you are a card carrying Trump cultist.
THAT is why I say you need help to overcome your Trumpite programming.
Natural Immunity better than Vaccine?
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