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The post that was quoted here has been removedI am skeptical of the claim. They probably recognize shapes rather than actually adding and subtracting. Someone once had a horse he claimed could count. Horses are pretty smart, but it couldn't really count.
@metal-brain saidRead the paper, which is well written, I presume that an average educated Person can understand nearly everything.
I am skeptical of the claim. They probably recognize shapes rather than actually adding and subtracting. Someone once had a horse he claimed could count. Horses are pretty smart, but it couldn't really count.
If a horse cannot count I doubt a bee can.
Once bees had completed the training, there were four tests of 10 unreinforced choices. Between each of the four tests, there were 10 refresher reinforced choices to maintain bee motivation.I love the idea of unmotivated bees, that just can't be bothered any more and get all lethargic and want to sign on the dole.
@ponderable saidIt was proven years ago that bees can not only add and subtract, but are also capable of exponential math. Food sources were placed at changing locations along a straight line and the bees were able to anticipate where the food would be the next day.
Read the paper, which is well written, I presume that an average educated Person can understand nearly everything.
They experimented with different shapes to Show the Independence of shape recognition.
If Bees can count or subtract is a question which is dependent on your Definition of counting or subtracting.
@deepthought saidBees will always fail a math test because they never show their work. Coming up with a correct answer isn't enough, you must always show your work...
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Ponderable is right, the original paper is a hoot. Consider this couple of sentences:Once bees had completed the training, there were four tests of 10 unreinforced choices. Between each of the four tests, there were 10 refresher reinforced choices to maintain bee motivation.I love the idea of unmotivated bees, that just can't be bothered any ...[text shortened]... ng that they aren't just going for more and less, but do get the idea that there's a precise answer.
@deepthought saidRecognizing patterns is not counting. Bees probably have a very strong ability to recognize shapes to identify the type of flower. Remembering these flowers and where they are placed relative to one another probably helps them navigate through a field of flowers. Bees do not want to waste time visiting the same flowers.
@Metal-Brain
Ponderable is right, the original paper is a hoot. Consider this couple of sentences:Once bees had completed the training, there were four tests of 10 unreinforced choices. Between each of the four tests, there were 10 refresher reinforced choices to maintain bee motivation.I love the idea of unmotivated bees, that just can't be bothered any ...[text shortened]... ng that they aren't just going for more and less, but do get the idea that there's a precise answer.
The post that was quoted here has been removedThey (the math tests) all required us (the [math] students) to "show your work".