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  1. Standard memberWulebgr
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    28 Apr '06 23:04
    White to move




    from Somkin — Vinogradov, Chelyabinsk 2005
  2. Earth Prime
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    28 Apr '06 23:14
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    Nb7
  3. Standard memberWulebgr
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    28 Apr '06 23:34
    Originally posted by Coconut
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    Nb7
    Knights don't make an L that tall
  4. Standard memberGrandmouster
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    28 Apr '06 23:391 edit
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    White to move

    [fen]r3kb1r/p1B2ppp/P1p1p1n1/1p6/N7/8/1PP2PPP/R2R2K1 w - -[/fen]


    from Somkin — Vinogradov, Chelyabinsk 2005
    nb6 pxn a7 with the idea of Bb8
  5. Standard memberWulebgr
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    28 Apr '06 23:41
    Originally posted by Grandmouster
    nb6 pxn a7 with the idea of Bb8
    What does Bb8 accomplish?
  6. London
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    28 Apr '06 23:421 edit
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    What does Bb8 accomplish?
    It looks like it blocks off the rook so it can't move anywhere.
  7. Standard memberWulebgr
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    28 Apr '06 23:43
    Originally posted by Freddie2006
    It looks like it blocks off the rook so it can't move anywhere.
    Is that worth a knight?
  8. Standard memberGrandmouster
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    28 Apr '06 23:431 edit
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    What does Bb8 accomplish?
    maybe nothing, i was thinking of a long range plan of doubling the rooks, but that might be too slow.
    Got me here. If its not a sac, then look for a way to double on the open file
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    28 Apr '06 23:44
    simple
    Nb6 axb6, Rd8ch Rxd8, Bxd8 Kxd8, a7 the pawn queens.
  10. Standard memberGrandmouster
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    28 Apr '06 23:45
    Originally posted by Grandmouster
    maybe nothing, i was thinking of a long range plan of doubling the rooks, but that might be too slow.
    Got me here. If its not a sac, then look for a way to double on the open file
    i get it, nb6 pxn, a7, then rd8+ then queen
  11. Standard memberDeepThought
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    28 Apr '06 23:45
    It's simple: 1. Nb6 axb6 2. Rd8+ Rxd8 3. Bxd8 and black has no way of stopping the pawn.
  12. Standard memberorfeo
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    28 Apr '06 23:551 edit
    Hang on... Black can't stop the pawn queening, but doesn't moving the king off the back row mean Black can kill the queen immediately?

    EDIT: No. Sorry. Can't move King AND Bishop in one move. Is it any wonder I'm making such pathetic mistakes in my own games at the moment?
  13. Standard memberWulebgr
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    28 Apr '06 23:56
    Originally posted by Regicidal
    simple
    Nb6 axb6, Rd8ch Rxd8, Bxd8 Kxd8, a7 the pawn queens.
    That's the given solution, but what if black does not grab the knight? For example, 1.Nb6 Bc5.
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    29 Apr '06 00:02
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    That's the given solution, but what if black does not grab the knight? For example, 1.Nb6 Bc5.
    Nxa8 wins the exchange comes first to mind.
  15. Standard memberDeepThought
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    29 Apr '06 00:0210 edits
    Originally posted by Wulebgr
    That's the given solution, but what if black does not grab the knight? For example, 1.Nb6 Bc5.
    Nxa8

    edit: drat, too slowagain...
    edit 3: after Nxa8, 0-0 (what else?) white can play Rd8 to keep hold of the knight.
    edit 4: although Be7 from black (rather than Bc5) cuts that out.
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