1. e4
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    In an online game Hans Niemann v Magnus Carlsen
    after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 Magnus resigned.
    I suppose he played a move to satisfy any contractable agreement.

    Now before anyone considers condemning Magnus. Think!

    Have you ever resigned an online game, here or on another site
    because you thought your opponent was cheating or previously cheated?
    Magnus has resigned a game v a self confessed online cheat.

    Whether he takes this up step to OTB game is another matter.
    But this action is something a lot of us have done.
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    Just when chess gets a huge popularity boost we have a world champion going crazy.
    He forfeits his title. Then accuses someone indirectly of cheating with no proof. Rage quits.
    Sells out to chess dot com...
    Then he does this today.

    He is only hurting chess and even his advocates and colleagues are turning against him.

    The popularity of chess dropped drastically after Fischer did his psycho routine and the same will happen with Magnus being a baby.
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    Why the alert notifications?
  4. Standard membervivify
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    @fiandrunko said
    Why the alert notifications?
    The word "cheating" automatically triggers an alert and each edit to the post re-triggers the alert.
  5. Standard membervivify
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    @fiandrunko said
    Just when chess gets a huge popularity boost we have a world champion going crazy.
    He forfeits his title. Then accuses someone indirectly of cheating with no proof. Rage quits.
    Sells out to chess dot com...
    Then he does this today.

    He is only hurting chess and even his advocates and colleagues are turning against him.

    The popularity of chess dropped drastically after Fischer did his psycho routine and the same will happen with Magnus being a baby.
    Having a problem with *one* player doesn't mean he's "going crazy" or a "baby".
  6. e4
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    Hi Fiandrunko,

    Fischer was so long out of the loop his rantings hardly affected chess.
    Carlsen's action may be good in the long run for online chess.and chess in general.

    However, if he takes this to OTB events and refuses to play in an OTB tournament
    if Hans is playing., there is not a shred of evidence Hans has cheated in an OTB game.
    Then Magnus will be taking it too far and should get rightly pulled up by FIDE.

    OK don't play him online. But let it lay there, You have proved (or in the case of
    OTB play not proved) a point.
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    @greenpawn34
    how many rating points did lose?
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    @greenpawn34 said
    In an online game Hans Niemann v Magnus Carlsen
    after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 Magnus resigned.
    I suppose he played a move to satisfy any contractable agreement.

    Now before anyone considers condemning Magnus. Think!

    Have you ever resigned an online game, here or on another site
    because you thought your opponent was cheating or previously cheated?
    Magnus has resigned a gam ...[text shortened]... es this up step to OTB game is another matter.
    But this action is something a lot of us have done.
    I've resigned games on move 1 here against people I suspect to be eating-chay.

    I support Magnus' decision.
  9. Subscribermlb62
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    Well I think most chess players would like an explanation as to what's going on.. I know I'm perplexed ..
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    @greenpawn34 said

    Now before anyone considers condemning Magnus. Think!
    Very good advise...valid before condemning anyone 😉
  11. Standard membervivify
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    @ogb said
    Well I think most chess players would like an explanation as to what's going on.. I know I'm perplexed ..
    Isn't it obvious? He thinks Hans is a cheater and refuses to play against him.
  12. Standard membermchill
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    @greenpawn34 said
    In an online game Hans Niemann v Magnus Carlsen
    after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 Magnus resigned.
    I suppose he played a move to satisfy any contractable agreement.

    Now before anyone considers condemning Magnus. Think!

    Have you ever resigned an online game, here or on another site
    because you thought your opponent was cheating or previously cheated?
    Magnus has resigned a gam ...[text shortened]... es this up step to OTB game is another matter.
    But this action is something a lot of us have done.
    I'm not sure who is to blame here, but perhaps Fiandrunko makes a valid point. These antics by Mr. Carlsen are not helpful. If he suspects cheating by another player, then maybe he should simply refuse to play against that person. Leaving after only a few moves is just plain silly.
  13. Subscribermlb62
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    @vivify said
    Isn't it obvious? He thinks Hans is a cheater and refuses to play against him.
    so Magnus will resign every time he ever has a game vs. Hans ? Like forever ?
  14. Subscribermlb62
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    @vivify said
    Isn't it obvious? He thinks Hans is a cheater and refuses to play against him.
    Are there safeguards against cheating during online games ? When players are at their own homes, how does the tournament director control the misconduct ?
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    @vivify said
    Having a problem with *one* player doesn't mean he's "going crazy" or a "baby".
    No, but the way he's doing it does.

    He should put his cards on the table, not throw his rattle out of the pram. If he didn't want to play Niemann, he shouldn't have played him to begin with, not throw a tiff like this. He's making himself look like The Donald throwing ketchup at the wall.
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