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    13 Jul '19 14:05
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/12/chess-world-rocked-scandal-grandmaster-pictured-using-phone/
  2. Standard memberPatzering
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    13 Jul '19 16:04
    He is pathetic.
    If you remove prize money and just give out a title and a trophy you could put an end to cheating in chess. Maybe 🤔
    Then you would have people who play because they love the game.

    Then use the proceeds from the tournaments to open new chess clubs and donate boards and give free lessons to people that can't afford them.

    Just an idea
  3. Standard memberPatzering
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    13 Jul '19 16:05
    I think Morphy was against prize money in chess if I'm not mistaken 🤔
  4. SubscriberLittleDonkey
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    13 Jul '19 16:23
    @Patzering People cheat for many reasons not just financial gain, otherwise there would be no cheating on sites like these.
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    13 Jul '19 21:05
    As some wag coined this:

    Grandmaster Flush and the Furious Fide
  6. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    14 Jul '19 01:18
    @patzering said
    He is pathetic.
    If you remove prize money and just give out a title and a trophy you could put an end to cheating in chess. Maybe 🤔
    Then you would have people who play because they love the game.

    Then use the proceeds from the tournaments to open new chess clubs and donate boards and give free lessons to people that can't afford them.

    Just an idea
    And when it's successful roll out the idea to football, baseball and basketball.
    Nobody should get paid for doing something they enjoy.
  7. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    14 Jul '19 01:21
    @patzering said
    I think Morphy was against prize money in chess if I'm not mistaken 🤔
    Easy for him to say, although a chess genius he
    was an idle sob who lived off the family fortune.
  8. Subscribersonhouse
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    14 Jul '19 02:38
    It was just suspicion, they didn't have proof he used engines on his cell phone. That said, it was unlikely a dude close to 60 would rise in two years from average GM area of 2500 two hundred points higher.
    The question is, how could he have done such cheating for two years without getting caught?
    I think they will have to get his cell phone to answer those kind of questions.
    He may not even had such engine apps on his phone, he could have been sneaky and just made a phone call to a home computer that did the work and just relayed it to the cell phone.
    Then all you would have is connecting to his home phone or whatever, maybe a comp in a hotel room. Still, a thorough look at his cell records should show suspicious activity. He would be thoroughly cooked if it was shown he had actual chess apps right on his phone but I suspect he would not be that stupid.
  9. Standard memberEric Guerrero
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  10. Standard memberEric Guerrero
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    17 Jul '19 21:44
    @dirtysniper
    Bad move on the part of a GM for sure. But what is also a bad move is who placed a camera in a toilet area? What if he had been caught using the toilet instead of cheating?
  11. Standard memberPatzering
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    17 Jul '19 22:22
    He could have sued and even pressed charges and whoever took the pic would probably have to register as a sex offender lol.
    It looks like someone put their phone over the door and snapped a pic.
    I don't think it was a hidden camera.
  12. SubscriberChris Guffogg
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    18 Jul '19 14:21
    What would of been funny is if the angle was from the 'Glory Hole'....
  13. Subscribersonhouse
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    18 Jul '19 17:27
    @hells-caretaker said
    What would of been funny is if the angle was from the 'Glory Hole'....
    Not much to be seen there since the lid was down and his pants were UP.
  14. Standard memberPatzering
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    @hells-caretaker said
    What would of been funny is if the angle was from the 'Glory Hole'....
    Lmao
  15. SubscriberPaul Leggett
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    19 Jul '19 20:07
    @sonhouse said
    Not much to be seen there since the lid was down and his pants were UP.
    If this was the case, perhaps he was using his phone to google instructions, as he was not off to a good start for using the facilities.

    And my wife and daughters would give him a big "thumbs up" for the "lid was down" part.
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