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19 Oct '19 12:35

greenpawn34
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19 Oct '19 12:35
...in Round 8 at the Isle of Man candidate qualifier.

Board 7 Shirov v Yu Yangyi, is sitting next to board 8 Karjakin v Dreev.

Shirov copies Karjakin moves, Yu replies to Shirov's move
and Dreev replies to Karjakin's move with Yu Yanyi's move.

Come move 17 with the exact same position on both boards.

Karjakin plays 18.Qe5 which is not correct and is deemed a mistake.

Shirov unaware 18.Qe5 is a mistake plays it v YU Yangyi,
Yu Yangyi, replies with 18...Qh5 (18...0-0 is better) and Dreev
then plays 18...Qh5 v Karjakin. The arbiter had seen enough and
moves the players to different rooms. Karjakin won. Shirov v Yu Yangyi, drew.

Sergey Karjakin vs Alexey Dreev

Invert Board PGN

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cd4 4. Nd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Nc6 bc6 7. e5 Nd5 8. Ne4 Qc7 9. f4 Qb6 10. c4 Bb4 11. Ke2 f5 12. ef6 Nf6 13. Be3 Qd8 14. Nd6 Bd6 15. Qd6 Bb7 16. g4 c5 17. Rg1 Ne4 18. Qe5 Qh4 19. Bg2 Qg4 20. Kd3 Nf2 21. Bf2 Bg2 22. Bc5 Rc8 23. Rae1 Kf7 24. Re2 Qf3 25. Be3 d6 26. Qd4 e5 27. Qa7 Ke6 28. Rgg2 Rc4 29. Kc4 Rc8 30. Kb4 Qe4 31. Bd4

Alexey Shirov vs Yu Yangyi
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1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cd4 4. Nd4 Nc6 5. Nc3 Nf6 6. Nc6 bc6 7. e5 Nd5 8. Ne4 Qc7 9. f4 Qb6 10. c4 Bb4 11. Ke2 f5 12. ef6 Nf6 13. Be3 Qd8 14. Nd6 Bd6 15. Qd6 Bb7 16. g4 c5 17. Rg1 Ne4 18. Qe5 Qh4 19. Bg2 Qg4 20. Bf3 Nc3 21. Kd3 Qf3 22. Kc3 Rg8 23. Rg3 Qc6 24. Bc5 O-O-O 25. Bd6 Ba6 26. b3 Kb7 27. Rd1 Rc8 28. Rg7 Rg7 29. Qg7 Bc4 30. Kb2 Be2 31. Re1 Qd6 32. Re2 Qd1 33. Qg2 Rc6 34. a4 Qd4 35. Ka2 Qf4 36. Qg7 Rd6 37. Qh7 Rd1 38. Qh5 Qd4 39. Rb2 e5 40. h4 Rd2 41. Rd2 Qd2 42. Ka3 Qc1 43. Ka2 Qc2 44. Ka3 Qc1
ketchuplover
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19 Oct '19 13:34
How did you learn of this? tyvm
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19 Oct '19 15:38
I don't believe you 😊
greenpawn34
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19 Oct '19 21:33
It actually happened.

This Karjakin's own tweet on what happened.

https://twitter.com/SergeyKaryakin/status/1185256375019917312
Anderssen
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19 Oct '19 22:32
My apologies...I thought you were joking.

It feels like someone was cheating...no?
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20 Oct '19 10:24
No need to apologise to me...ever!

It does look it was cheating but it just being silly and not premeditated.

Of course I could have elaborated:

Let's say Karjakin was aware of what was happening.

Shirov was copying his moves and when Yu Yangy made his reply, Dreev copied Yu Yangy's move and played it v Karjakin.

So Karjakin set his proxy opponent,Yu Yangy (who Dreev was copying) a trap.

Shoriv unaware he was setting a trap copied Karjakin's move.

Yu Yangy unaware he was falling into a trap made a move.

Unaware Yu Yangy had fallen into a trap Dreev copied Yu Yangy's move and played it v Karjakin.

Having trapped Dreev via Yu Yangy Kajakin called across the arbiter and the boards were split up.

Karjakin won and Shirov v Yu Yangy drew.
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21 Oct '19 06:28
Seems like an odd situation.

Either someone was cheating or maybe...just maybe they all know that none of them can beat the Great and Immortal Magnus Carlsen and they are just having some fun.

Lasker just might get a decent game in chess hell but he will still beat Carlsen. 😉
ketchuplover
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21 Oct '19 15:50
I think it'd be interesting to know the time stamps for the moves up until they were seperated

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