1. Standard membermchill
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    09 Aug '19 11:41
    It is now more than a decade since Russia’s almost unbroken 59-year monopoly of the world chess crown was ended, so Moscow is trying hard to develop new talents who can challenge Norway’s Magnus Carlsen. But its method is controversial, relying on older teenagers and players in their 20s rather than the prodigies who have emerged from other leading chess nations.

    Will the tactic of supporting established masters be more successful than developing young talent?

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/jul/20/russia-unconventional-methods-grandmaster-hunt
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    09 Aug '19 12:32
    Grumble, grumble... Tal was Latvian and Petrosian was Armenian (but born in Georgia).
  3. SubscriberChris Guffogg
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    09 Aug '19 13:49
    A least it's a try.
  4. Standard membermchill
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    @mynameisklint said
    Grumble, grumble... Tal was Latvian and Petrosian was Armenian (but born in Georgia).
    Now that we have that cleared up, will the tactic of supporting established masters be more successful than developing young talent?
  5. Standard memberPatzering
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    A lot of young kids grow up and move on to other things.
    Or they hit a wall when they get to the master level and quit like Josh Waitzkin 😉

    So...wait and see if they have the talent AND will keep playing?
    Instead of wasting money on them kids and then they quit because they like video games or girls and drugs lol.

    It looks like a cost saving approach but I don't think it will propel Russia back into chess dominance.
  6. Standard membermobster kitty
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    09 Aug '19 17:41
    the chinese will become the dominant threat.
  7. Standard memberPatzering
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    09 Aug '19 18:05
    I agree.
  8. Standard membermobster kitty
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    09 Aug '19 20:312 edits
    @mister-moggy

    not because they are chinese, because they work hard at it.

    the chinese can outwork almost everyone given the tools and opportunity.

    the japanese are a distant second.
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    @mister-moggy

    as i noted and is noted in the news on another chess site:

    "Wei Yi Defeats Xiong In Armageddon To Win Junior Speed Chess Championship
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    On Saturday, Wei Yi defeated Jeffery Xiong in an armageddon tiebreak game to be crowned champion of the 2019 Junior Speed Chess Championship. The match had ended 13.5-13.5, and four more games in overtime also couldn't bring a decision. With the win, Wei claimed the first-place prize for the Junior Speed ".
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    12 Aug '19 11:36
    @mister-moggy

    Hard work only takes you so far. Innate ability must kick in as well. None of us are good enough to tell the difference between work and talent. So I suppose for us only time will tell.

    Burn out is a huge issue too. People generally end up doing what they want to do and what they enjoy. Once the joy leaves, once again burn out.
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    When I turned 11 I just got good -Bobby Fischer
  12. Subscribersonhouse
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    @ketchuplover
    But there are damn few Fischer's, Capablanca's, Reshevkys or Carlsen's who seem to have been born with master talent.
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