Thoughts on this Maria Carey Song?

@vivify said
Further more, Rock & Roll is completely dead. It has no presence in mainstream music. A shocking thought given how utterly dominant the genre was for most of the 20th century.

Depends how puritanical you are being about the terms Rock & Roll” and “completely dead”.

Rock & Roll as a music style “died” in the late sixties after its heyday of the 50s and early 60s. However is still has a core fan base, so is not completely dead. Music never dies is a cliched truism.

Mariah Carey is one of hundreds, thousands of hard working talented Generation X pop stars who have for some reason lost their way, or their audience has moved on. She is about 50 years old now believe it or not and the millennial generation of music consumers have largely abandoned the disciplines which brought about the bands, the groups and the iconic pioneering sounds of the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Guitarists who learned to play from from early school, songwriters who poured over their work like it was a canvas and collaborations driven by a recognition that deep lasting music often requires more than one person to bring it into existence, off of the sheet.

Maybe it’s a generational thing but popular music these days just feels like its a fast food equivalent, a poor-mans contrived narcotic sold in dime-bags or streamed free over the internet as a wafting burning platform for a wider marketing image which involves product placements and visual branding and the malaise that is Instagram, for the sickly “Instagram generation”.

Nevermind, Mick’s heart op went well so the Stones will be touring again soon, 5 old men in the mid 70s filling stadiums all over the world. Who’d have thunk it.

Here she is in great company:

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@divegeester said
Depends how puritanical you are being about the terms Rock & Roll” and “completely dead”.

Rock & Roll as a music style “died” in the late sixties after its heyday of the 50s and early 60s. However is still has a core fan base, so is not completely dead. Music never dies is a cliched truism.

Mariah Carey is one of hundreds, thousands of hard working talented Genera ...[text shortened]... uring again soon, 5 old men in the mid 70s filling stadiums all over the world. Who’d have thunk it.

I find it great that singers 50 and over are still filling stadiums!!!

-VR

@vivify said
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What do you think of this new pop song from Mariah? I love it. She also due to receive an icon award from Billboard.

And yeah: I know there's a Culture forum but that gets 3 and half posts a year.

Making music like this should get you on the electric chair.

@very-rusty said
Well she is HOT!!!



-VR

Unlike your daughter, who isn't worth a fiver.

@kegge said
Unlike your daughter, who isn't worth a fiver.

Kegge that is a picture of your own daughter you were looking at!!! 😛 😉

-VR

@divegeester said
Depends how puritanical you are being about the terms Rock & Roll” and “completely dead”.

Rock & Roll as a music style “died” in the late sixties after its heyday of the 50s and early 60s. However is still has a core fan base, so is not completely dead. Music never dies is a cliched truism.

Mariah Carey is one of hundreds, thousands of hard working talented Genera ...[text shortened]... uring again soon, 5 old men in the mid 70s filling stadiums all over the world. Who’d have thunk it.

Rock lasted much longer than that. I doubt any fan of Queen, Aerosmith Metallica, Van Halen or Nirvana would agree that Rock died in the 60's. Rock thrived well into the early 2000's, but was completely gone by the mid 2000's (maybe even earlier than that).


I've noticed that it seems every single generations, at least since the start of the 20th century, always complains about the next generation's music. Conservative parents said Rock & Roll was from the devil, said pop music was too sexual, rap was too aggressive.....all the way on to today.

When was the last time a generation actually thought music improved from their own?

@torunn said
I wonder too - it doesn't sound new to me. Are we too old, Andy...? 🙂

I brought myself up on folk music so I have to recuse myself🙂

@vivify said
Rock lasted much longer than that.

Agreed, but weren’t you talking specifically about “Rock & Roll”?

@vivify said
When was the last time a generation actually thought music improved from their own?

Never, it’s true.

@divegeester said
Agreed, but weren’t you talking specifically about “Rock & Roll”?

Is there a difference?

@vivify said
Rock lasted much longer than that. I doubt any fan of Queen, Aerosmith Metallica, Van Halen or Nirvana would agree that Rock died in the 60's. Rock thrived well into the early 2000's, but was completely gone by the mid 2000's (maybe even earlier than that).


I've noticed that it seems every single generations, at least since the start of the 20th century, always compla ...[text shortened]... n to today.

When was the last time a generation actually thought music improved from their own?

Popular music must evolve, an unsettling process at best.

Here's one for old times' sake:

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