1. Gothenburg
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    This thread should perhaps belong in the Debate forum but there I would meet a different kind of people. In this general forum I hope to have views from posters I'm used to.

    My 55 year old daughter hardly ever uses alcohol whereas I am very fond of wine. She claims that alcohol is one the most dangerous drugs there are - it's just that we live in a country that accepts alcohol but no other drugs.

    Can I have our views, please.
  2. Standard membermchill
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    @torunn said
    This thread should perhaps belong in the Debate forum but there I would meet a different kind of people. In this general forum I hope to have views from posters I'm used to.

    My 55 year old daughter hardly ever uses alcohol whereas I am very fond of wine. She claims that alcohol is one the most dangerous drugs there are - it's just that we live in a country that accepts alcohol but no other drugs.

    Can I have our views, please.
    Your daughters views are a great deal like those of my family. Going to extremes like that makes little sense to me. I drink about wine about twice a week, 2 glasses ea.
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    @torunn said
    Can I have our views, please.
    I drink alcohol to easily-controlled excess once a week. It poses no danger to me. I am no longer capable of drinking quantities that would be a danger. And with the occasions being a week apart, there is, of course, no risk of physical dependency.
  4. R
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    @mchill said
    Your daughters views are a great deal like those of my family. Going to extremes like that makes little sense to me. I drink about wine about twice a week, 2 glasses ea.
    my wife has a gin and orange 4.30 pm and a whisky and dry around 7 pm, I have a couple of gins and 1 or whiskeys luverly jubbly.
  5. santa cruz, ca.
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    @torunn said
    This thread should perhaps belong in the Debate forum but there I would meet a different kind of people. In this general forum I hope to have views from posters I'm used to.

    My 55 year old daughter hardly ever uses alcohol whereas I am very fond of wine. She claims that alcohol is one the most dangerous drugs there are - it's just that we live in a country that accepts alcohol but no other drugs.

    Can I have our views, please.
    it all depends
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    @torunn said
    This thread should perhaps belong in the Debate forum but there I would meet a different kind of people. In this general forum I hope to have views from posters I'm used to.

    My 55 year old daughter hardly ever uses alcohol whereas I am very fond of wine. She claims that alcohol is one the most dangerous drugs there are - it's just that we live in a country that accepts alcohol but no other drugs.

    Can I have our views, please.
    Your daughter is right.

    I myself think I am a very moderate drinker, not every week and small amounts.
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    @torunn said
    She claims that alcohol is one the most dangerous drugs there are - it's just that we live in a country that accepts alcohol but no other drugs.
    I would quite like to have the freedom to access "other drugs" but I don't think it would be a good idea, at all, for the society in which I live to allow such access . So, I am not concerned about the restriction on my freedom in this matter.

    I do, however, wish that the authorities here - in their efforts to protect the citizens - would stop making exaggerated claims about the dangers of certain, less dangerous drugs, because It undermines their credibility when they make claims about the dangers of genuinely dangerous drugs.
  8. Gothenburg
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    My daughter claims that the danger with alcohol is that it is extremely addictive - much more than other drugs, except heroin. That's her main objection to alcohol and she means that our society is blind to the dangers because it brings money to the state in form of taxes, as it is a state-owned monopoly.
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    @torunn said
    My daughter claims that the danger with alcohol is that it is extremely addictive - much more than other drugs, except heroin.
    I am no expert in this but I'd say nicotine is far more addictive than alcohol and probably on a par with heroin.
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    @torunn said
    My daughter claims that the danger with alcohol is that it is extremely addictive - much more than other drugs, except heroin. That's her main objection to alcohol and she means that our society is blind to the dangers because it brings money to the state in form of taxes, as it is a state-owned monopoly.
    One problem of course is the question physical and psychiacl addiction. Plus the problem of being offered the drug.
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    @fmf said
    I am no expert in this but I'd say nicotine is far more addictive than alcohol and probably on a par with heroin.
    I don't think there are too many days of work lost because of nicotine
    or caffeine for that matter
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    @torunn said
    That's her main objection to alcohol and she means that our society is blind to the dangers because it brings money to the state in form of taxes, as it is a state-owned monopoly.
    There is no reason to believe that the people who are bringing in money in the form of taxes are "blind to the dangers" of what it is they are taxing.
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    @lemondrop said
    I don't think there are too many days of work lost because of nicotine
    or caffeine for that matter
    I managed to kick the smoking habit started at 13 gave up at 40, find it harder with the booze but the north east of the uk is renown for its drink culture.
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    @lemondrop said
    I don't think there are too many days of work lost because of nicotine
    or caffeine for that matter
    If the issue is physical addiction, then I don't see how whether or not one misses days at work is relevant.
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    @torunn said
    This thread should perhaps belong in the Debate forum but there I would meet a different kind of people. In this general forum I hope to have views from posters I'm used to.

    My 55 year old daughter hardly ever uses alcohol whereas I am very fond of wine. She claims that alcohol is one the most dangerous drugs there are - it's just that we live in a country that accepts alcohol but no other drugs.

    Can I have our views, please.
    I go with what the bible recommends. A few drinks every day is a good stress reliever and for digestion.
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