1. Subscribershavixmir
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    @philokalia said
    Actually the general consensus was that the great wall of China totally worked.

    Moreover... How didn't the Berlin wall work?

    It could only be thought of as being defeated by the massive Berlin airlift operation...

    ... And sure, I guess the Berlin wall didn't prop up east German communism, lol
    Didn’t the Mongols rule China at one point?
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    @shavixmir said
    Didn’t the Mongols rule China at one point?
    Yes, but it is pointed out that the Song dynasty, which fell to the Mongols, did not even extend all the way up to the Great Wall, and thus it was not a meaningful or protective barrier that they manned and had accountability of. So, in a sense, it was not a failure at all, as the Song were never even on the wall.

    Generally speaking, historians look at the effect of the Great Wall and deem it a massive success because it stopped the Mongolian cavalry from being able to effectively attack and raid China.
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    @philokalia said
    Yes, but it is pointed out that the Song dynasty, which fell to the Mongols, did not even extend all the way up to the Great Wall, and thus it was not a meaningful or protective barrier that they manned and had accountability of. So, in a sense, it was not a failure at all, as the Song were never even on the wall.

    Generally speaking, historians look at the effect of th ...[text shortened]... ccess because it stopped the Mongolian cavalry from being able to effectively attack and raid China.
    Yeah, so I guess it's too bad that we don't have an army on the border to keep out with a wall?

    Unless you mean, I dunno, an 'army' of "brown people" with women and children.
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    @mchill said
    Now that one was a work of pure genius! ๐Ÿ™‚
    Yes, a wall does help to hold back armed, organized invasions. The problem is that we aren't being invaded by an organized army of armed soldiers, despite Fox News' propaganda.

    Walls are entirely ineffective against individuals.
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    @shavixmir said
    Didn’t the Mongols rule China at one point?
    They were let through by a Ming general during a major civil war.
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    The post that was quoted here has been removed
    It was abundantly clear that it was a quote, quit being so pedantic.

    Otherwise I will pull you up for your sloppy grammar.
    e.g.
    Did Mchill's English teacher not tell him that ...
    is far clearer than
    Did his English teacher not tell Mchill that ...
    where the reader is left wondering whose English teacher we are talking about!
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    @wolfgang59 said
    It was abundantly clear that it was a quote, quit being so pedantic.

    Otherwise I will pull you up for your sloppy grammar.
    e.g.
    Did Mchill's English teacher not tell him that ...
    is far clearer than
    Did his English teacher not tell Mchill that ...
    where the reader is left wondering whose English teacher we are talking about!
    For the sake of complete accuracy, Mchill is mchill.
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    @suzianne said
    Yeah, so I guess it's too bad that we don't have an army on the border to keep out with a wall?

    Unless you mean, I dunno, an 'army' of "brown people" with women and children.
    Maybe you should go back and tell McHill that the analogy with the Great Wall doesn't work.

    I'm just talking about the Great Wall, Suz. ^^
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    The post that was quoted here has been removed
    Slows em down a bit. Find a new plan and kill em when they get in. It's the evil people from w/in you really have to worry about
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    @kquinn909 said
    Slows em down a bit. Find a new plan and kill em when they get in. It's the evil people from w/in you really have to worry about
    Yeah, and most of those were born here.
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    @wolfgang59 said
    It was abundantly clear that it was a quote, quit being so pedantic.

    Otherwise I will pull you up for your sloppy grammar.
    e.g.
    Did Mchill's English teacher not tell him that ...
    is far clearer than
    Did his English teacher not tell Mchill that ...
    where the reader is left wondering whose English teacher we are talking about!
    Whose English teacher ? ๐Ÿ˜›
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    @mchill

    Aw, c'mon... the remains of Trump's Wall may become a UNESCO World Heritage Site -- in 500 years. (Assuming h. saps isn't extinct by then.)

    https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/places/hadrians-wall/
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