The United States would respond decisively to any Russian use of nuclear weapons against Ukraine and has spelled out to Moscow the "catastrophic consequences" it would face, U.S. National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said on Sunday.
So everybody has been warned. Jake Sullivan would not say what the "catastrophic consequences" would be. I guess Russia will have to guess.
@metal-brainsaid Obama declared “all options on the table” against Iran.
President Kennedy threatened a nuclear strike at the Soviets over Berlin.
In 1946 and 1948 President Harry Truman threatened the Soviets over Iran and Berlin, respectively, and the Chinese in 1950 and 51.
President Eisenhower also threatened the Chinese over Korea in 1953, and again in 1956 over Quemoy and Mat ...[text shortened]... ntimidate others with them? What good is having nukes if you tell the world you will never use them?
So what is your point? Since the times you mentioned tactical battlefield nukes are most likely exchange but given the battlefield is the cities towns and villages of Ukraine it’s a technicality that might be lost on the Ukrainians.
If Putin uses tactical nukes on Ukrainian positions what is your moral objection to nukes being used on Russian positions in Ukraine.
@kevcvs57said So what is your point? Since the times you mentioned tactical battlefield nukes are most likely exchange but given the battlefield is the cities towns and villages of Ukraine it’s a technicality that might be lost on the Ukrainians.
If Putin uses tactical nukes on Ukrainian positions what is your moral objection to nukes being used on Russian positions in Ukraine.
Nations do not care about my moral objections. They only care about winning wars.
Keep in mind that Russia did not say only nukes. Maybe it will be biological or chemical weapons. Then what? WW3?
A Serbian politician predicted WW3 within 2 months. Guess why.
@shallow-bluesaid Because Serbia is, as it has been since at least 1914, Russia's butt-buddy?
Is that why NATO invaded Serbia and annexed Kosovo during the Clinton administration? Yeah, that's right. It isn't just Russia that does that sort of thing. Putin is just doing what Clinton did.
@shallow-bluesaid And didn't mention nuclear weapons.
Putin did. Quite explicitly. Before anyone else did in the Russian rape of Georgia and Ukraine.
And don't say "What is your source of information" again, because you already know.
I don't believe Putin did mention nukes. He was deliberately non specific. You are just listening to people's interpretation of what he was referring to, not Putin himself.
@metal-brainsaid Nations do not care about my moral objections. They only care about winning wars.
Keep in mind that Russia did not say only nukes. Maybe it will be biological or chemical weapons. Then what? WW3?
A Serbian politician predicted WW3 within 2 months. Guess why.
Because he’s a pro Russian Slav?
If Russia uses biological or chemical weapons then Ukraine must be given the means to respond in kind or better yet the means to defend themselves against such attacks now.
Do you think NATO and the western democracies will do nothing if Putin uses these illegal weapons in its proxy war on them.
NATO cannot back down in the face of these threats from Putin or they will be backing down all the way to Paris.
Putin is painting everyone into a corner and he needs to stop.
@kevcvs57said Because he’s a pro Russian Slav?
If Russia uses biological or chemical weapons then Ukraine must be given the means to respond in kind or better yet the means to defend themselves against such attacks now.
Do you think NATO and the western democracies will do nothing if Putin uses these illegal weapons in its proxy war on them.
NATO cannot back down in the face of these ...[text shortened]... e backing down all the way to Paris.
Putin is painting everyone into a corner and he needs to stop.
And when that further escalation leads to nukes being used, then what?
You have not thought this all the way through, have you?
Why do you support war? You do not benefit from it? You have to pay for it and get nothing in return. It is like you are getting robbed on a regular basis and you like it.
@metal-brainsaid And when that further escalation leads to nukes being used, then what?
You have not thought this all the way through, have you?
Why do you support war? You do not benefit from it? You have to pay for it and get nothing in return. It is like you are getting robbed on a regular basis and you like it.
I don’t benefit from stopping the fascist thieving Putin theocratic oligarchy from terrorising Europe into submission and advancing westward? How stupid are you?
If it comes to nukes then it was always going to come to nukes because it’s always been part of Putins strategy to spend Russia's massive wealth on himself and his inner circle at the expense of modernising his conventional forces and use his soviet inherited nuclear stockpile to bully anyone weak enough.
If a nuclear armed nato cannot stop him who can.
This is not a US or NATO proxy war on Russia it’s the exact opposite and only Russia can stop it escalating.
@metal-brainsaid Obama declared “all options on the table” against Iran.
President Kennedy threatened a nuclear strike at the Soviets over Berlin.
In 1946 and 1948 President Harry Truman threatened the Soviets over Iran and Berlin, respectively, and the Chinese in 1950 and 51.
President Eisenhower also threatened the Chinese over Korea in 1953, and again in 1956 over Quemoy and Mat ...[text shortened]... ntimidate others with them? What good is having nukes if you tell the world you will never use them?
You are speaking English like a proper Russian troll.
You are detected. Your location is known.
You should abdicate your credibility with this disclosure.
We know, we know... you'll need to consult your superiors first. Please do so.
We can wait.
@kevcvs57said I don’t benefit from stopping the fascist thieving Putin theocratic oligarchy from terrorising Europe into submission and advancing westward? How stupid are you?
If it comes to nukes then it was always going to come to nukes because it’s always been part of Putins strategy to spend Russia's massive wealth on himself and his inner circle at the expense of modernising his con ...[text shortened]... not a US or NATO proxy war on Russia it’s the exact opposite and only Russia can stop it escalating.
Russia is just taking back what the USA stole from them in a coup. It is called repossession.
@metal-brainsaid The United States would respond decisively to any Russian use of nuclear weapons against Ukraine and has spelled out to Moscow the "catastrophic consequences" it would face, U.S. National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said on Sunday.
So everybody has been warned. Jake Sullivan would not say what the "catastrophic consequences" would be. I guess Russia will have to guess.
@metal-brainsaid Russia is just taking back what the USA stole from them in a coup. It is called repossession.
HEY RETARDED ONE UKRAINE IS A SOVEREIGN STATE, IT DIDN'T BELONG TO THE US OR RUSSIA AND IT DOESN'T BELONG TO RUSSIA NOW, IT BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE DUMMY / RUSSIAN AGITPROP!
Who said they would use nukes first?
26 Sep '22 00:57
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