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    @averagejoe1 said
    OK. Let's not be hypocritical. Now, How about Biden start reining in spending, maybe starting with not paying off loans owed by citizens. Have them pay off the loans they agreed to, and start turning the deficit around. Good idea?
    How about you stop rambling from side to side, DrunkardJoe?
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    @wildgrass said
    In the first two years of the Biden administration, 615,000 jobs have been repatriated from China.

    Since Biden signed the CHIPS act, $87 billion in private funding was announced for new midwest manufacturing plants.

    Prescription drug prices are falling.

    All Trump knew how to do was spend money. He doubled Obama's deficits. Biden's doing the things that Trump promised by never delivered.
    I couldn't say about all that, I am right now posted up on what he is or is not, doing now. Hey, did you hear where a judge ruled today that Obama had no right to establish DACA, but they are are going to keep it intact. Why would they keep in intact?
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    @kevcvs57 said
    Uhhh no joe you’ve proven time and time again that you no absolutely nothing about banking markets or even basics like the law of supply and demand if memory serves me well.
    Systematically Inflating the value of your assets when looking for finance is a crime, undervaluing your assets when applying for bankruptcy or filing your taxes is a crime.
    Trump has been a career criminal all his life and getting the keys to the White House didn’t retrain him one little bit.
    Have they 'got him' yet, why is it taking so long
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    05 Oct '22 23:251 edit
    @shallow-blue said
    How about you stop rambling from side to side, DrunkardJoe?
    All I said was let people pay off their own loans, which your granddaddies and mine always did, nothing has changed in the world of borrowing, lending. Then I said start reining in spending. Is there rambling in that? Even if I were drunk? πŸ€” πŸ™„
    Hey shouldn't you be down at the Pub, darts starts at top of the hour.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    I couldn't say about all that, I am right now posted up on what he is or is not, doing now. Hey, did you hear where a judge ruled today that Obama had no right to establish DACA, but they are are going to keep it intact. Why would they keep in intact?
    I couldn't say about all that

    Why can't you? It's true and factual. Trump campaigned on reducing federal spending and then massively increased it. There's not any nuance or opinion there.
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    I remember Trump saying he wouldn't take his presidential pay packet if he was president. How did that go?
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    @wildgrass said
    I couldn't say about all that

    Why can't you? It's true and factual. Trump campaigned on reducing federal spending and then massively increased it. There's not any nuance or opinion there.
    Give us something to chew on....these budget promises are commonplace with candidates. I ain't gonna look 'em up.
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    @happy-chappy said
    I remember Trump saying he wouldn't take his presidential pay packet if he was president. How did that go?
    You are being facetious, I am sure. He donated the whole works. As above, how 'bout someone else discover that piece of history!
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    @AverageJoe1
    FACTS? I don't think for a MINUTE you are actually interested in facts.

    Like the FACT JACK he STOLE HIGHLY classified docs which he has and had ZERO right to do but you would just go PROVE IT ASSSHOLE.
    I have ZERO doubt also you would just fly with the words given you by your god king Trump, THOSE DOCS WERE PLANTED IN MY HOUSE.
    Another set of FACTS: A lot of the folders are actually MISSING docs. Why is that so, what business would Trump have in losing those docs? Selling them maybe?
    And you OF COURSE believe every word coming out of that psychological liar when he says I can't reveal my taxes because they are under audit. THAT is BS in itself, there is only ONE reason he doesn't want his taxes revealed and that would be because of DECADES of tax fraud.
    Another FACT: He has UPvalued his properties by ridiculous amounts if he wants a loan, HIGHLY illegal BTW, like his Mar A Lago place, assessed around 75 mil, for purposes of loans he goes nah, it's worth 3/4 of a BILLION. Come on, TEN TIMES the valuation? There is no getting around that one because it is all on paper with banks.
    Then of course if it comes to taxes, all of a sudden his property is worth not 75 mil but 30 mil.
    Then there is his condo he SAID was 30,000 square feet worth 300 MILLION when in FACT JACK it was 11,000 square feet and worth WAY less than 1/10th of that.

    THAT is also FACT, ON PAPER. The courts have ALL that information now and his big deal legally is DELAY DELAY DELAY so in case he wins again in 24 all that goes away because he would be 'shudder' POTUS again.
    It matters ZERO to you he can't even keep a CASINO running because he ran it into the ground or his two 'businesses' Trump Uni and Trump charity both SHUT DOWN by the government because it was nothing but grift. And he had to pay 25 MILLION to get out of that one.

    But he is your god king and NONE of that matters and all you would say is PROVE IT.
    which is why he is in court as we speak and really STUPID lawyers because REAL ones dumped him a long time ago because he HATES to actually pay legal fees.

    But none of THAT matters to you in the slightest either because like I said several times, Trump is your RELIGION and that means you fight against his enemies just like a religious zealot defending Islam or Christianity, they KILL people who diss their religion and that is the same with you except you don't shoot you just keep mouthing off.
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    07 Oct '22 13:211 edit
    You are still difficult to follow…..you write , I assume to me, that I had said “FACTS” in some reference. I just looked back at my posts, and I don’t see where I use the word fact in any of them. so this entire post of yours is lost on me.
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    @AverageJoe1
    You must have missed THIS:

    'So if he is found guilty, you and I can discuss the facts, can we not? "

    Which is EXACTLY why I made my post about FACTS JACK.
    You really need to up your dose of prevagen.

    But you won't read it anyway. And you said "OPINIONS' of judges. So now you move the goalpost once again, now a judges ruling in a case is now in your mind just OPINIONS and since it would be dissing Trump they are now ONLY opinions and if Trump, no, WHEN Trump is pronounced guilty in CRIMINAL cases, then you move the goalposts yet again, this time to TOTALLY BOUGHT OUT JUDGES, IMPEACHE THE BITCH, POLITICAL HIT JOB.
    No matter HOW strong the evidence, ALL FAKE, planted by the FBI.
    You, looking at FACTS? Don't insult my intelligence. If Trump was convicted of high treason and SHOT AT DAWN, you would start a religious memorial service in your newly minted Trumpism religion transforming him to the status of god, just like JC and Mo.

    You naively think banking rules that apply to us would be used when it comes to so-called billionaires, and BTW, I don't think Trump is really a billionaire, another one of his lies. If a dude like Trump says his condo is worth 300 mil, then crooked banks with Russian money could care less, they give him the loan, which of course he says good look getting me to pay it back which is his MO but that doesn't matter to you in the slightest either.
    He really could shoot someone in Times square at high noon and you would just say the basturd deserved it.
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    @sonhouse said
    @AverageJoe1
    You must have missed THIS:

    'So if he is found guilty, you and I can discuss the facts, can we not? "

    Which is EXACTLY why I made my post about FACTS JACK.
    You really need to up your dose of prevagen.

    But you won't read it anyway. And you said "OPINIONS' of judges. So now you move the goalpost once again, now a judges ruling in a case is now in your ...[text shortened]... e in your newly minted Trumpism religion transforming him to the status of god, just like JC and Mo.
    Your post is the usual, but how can you take issue with 'opinions'. That is what judges do, Sonhouse.
    Take a deep breath,
    That word sort of the took the air out of your post. Like, ,,,,whaaaat??
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    So your defense of your god king is already set up. I thought as much.
    I already heard it from my sister, a dyed in the wool Trumpite. If convicted it is the COURT now being corrupt because Trump is innocent of EVERYTHING charged against him in your POS POV.

    It is OBVIOUS you will NEVER give up defending the most corrupt POTUS in the history of the US, failed in so many ways it is a sad disgrace to the US and is a danger to our democracy.

    Did you hear about the Moore case now before the ultrarightwingnut SCOTUS?

    They will move to turn the US directly into another banana republic where repubs ALWAYS win no matter what the TRUE vote count is, the gist of that whole case is giving states the right to chuck out duly elected electoral college officials who would say Biden won, and install their own, oops, sorry for the delay, after recounts we have shown TRUMP won, again, wow, amazing he can be in office 4 times now! The people LOVE him so much!
    But you WANT repubs to be in control forever.
    You clearly HATE the idea of democracy, even as flawed as it is in the US,
    BECAUSE Biden won BECAUSE you are fully convinced of the Trump lies, that Trump won BIGLY and massive voter fraud stopped him from getting reelected.

    You CLEARLY don't want FACTS JACK.
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    @sonhouse said
    @AverageJoe1
    You must have missed THIS:

    'So if he is found guilty, you and I can discuss the facts, can we not? "

    Which is EXACTLY why I made my post about FACTS JACK.
    You really need to up your dose of prevagen.
    Its simple. My point is that your ranting is not 'Facts". I simply say to discuss facts in my post. Obviously the purpose of threads is to discuss facts. 'Hunter lied'. 'Joe Biden is a plagiarist' 'Obama is a Marxist'. 'Trump has orange hair'. 'Socialism reduces self reliance'......such as that. Facts.
    Your utter your every phrase as if it is a proven fact. They seldom are.
    So, you have my answer. 😏 Are you mad at me?
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    What Trump wanted to do but didn’t: stay in the WH.
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