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@jimm619 saidBut the reality of it is that a healthcare system like the UK's NHS will SAVE
@Duchess64..............Good, honest folks may differ, but I cannot understand why anyone would oppose health care. The $trillion and a half we wasted looking for, ''IMAGINARY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION'', could have started a healthcare system.
@bunnyknight saidNo, they are a necessary part of disease management.
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And contrary to what they tell you, drugs are not a necessary part of a healthy life.
@divegeester saidI think you meant
No, they are a necessary part of disease management.
@wolfgang59 said"The downside? Less choice and waiting lists."
But the reality of it is that a healthcare system like the UK's NHS will SAVE
the US money, reduce waste, reduce bureaucracy, reduce legal fees!
The downside? Less choice and waiting lists.
Small price to pay and anyone can still pay for private treatment if they so wish.
@zahlanzi saidI'm just playing "Devil's Advocate"
"The downside? Less choice and waiting lists."
What choice do americans have?
@wolfgang59 saidThe option to pay for private treatment is the key. That's why I'm okay with an NHS-style system but not with single payer.
But the reality of it is that a healthcare system like the UK's NHS will SAVE
the US money, reduce waste, reduce bureaucracy, reduce legal fees!
The downside? Less choice and waiting lists.
Small price to pay and anyone can still pay for private treatment if they so wish.
@zahlanzi saidYou're thinking of big companies. In small companies, employees have a lot of say over the health plan chosen.
"The downside? Less choice and waiting lists."
What choice do americans have? The employer chooses the plan. The employer chooses when to change it. You can't choose the doctor or the hospital.
There are waiting lists in the US as well. It all depends on how shiny your insurance is.
The post that was quoted here has been removed"The NHS is a precious thing. Try being ill in the US if you don’t believe this. If we allow US ‘big pharma’ to get its hands on the NHS, drug costs will rocket and millions will be priced out of healthcare."
@sh76 saidBeing on Medicare doesn't prevent seeking private treatment, does it? So why would Medicare-for-all be any different?
The option to pay for private treatment is the key. That's why I'm okay with an NHS-style system but not with single payer.
I have insurance with low copays, but I sometimes have to wait a couple of days before seeing my doctor. I have another out of network doctor who will see you any time, but doesn't take my insurance.
If I need a physical or something, I don't mind wai ...[text shortened]... k Americans can accept increased taxes to cover more people. We will not accept enforced wait times.
@mchill saidBut I thought Obamacare was suppose to fix everything.
"The NHS is a precious thing. Try being ill in the US if you don’t believe this. If we allow US ‘big pharma’ to get its hands on the NHS, drug costs will rocket and millions will be priced out of healthcare."
100% correct. I've listened to the lies from big pharma and their conservative GOP minions in Congress for decades that "competition between companies will bring dru ...[text shortened]... ters are too brainless to see this. If you want good healthcare coverage, stay away from big pharma!
@jimm619 saidWe were lied to with trillions being wasted in Iraq? So you want these same people to take care of your health care and decide what doctor you do or don't see? You want them to give a thumbs up or down on treatment options?
@Duchess64..............Good, honest folks may differ, but I cannot understand why anyone would oppose health care. The $trillion and a half we wasted looking for, ''IMAGINARY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION'', could have started a healthcare system.