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  1. Subscribersonhouse
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    11 Sep '19 05:02
    So the position was offered to one admiral who turned it down and 3 more idiots took the job. McMaster wasn't an idiot but he was stupid for taking a job that was a dead end since Trump doesn't WANT advice and guess what, after the I FIRED HIM, NO I QUIT crap plays out, guess who Trump called up in panic: McMaster. PLEASE COME BACK ALL IS FORGIVEN.
    I hope McMaster tells Trump to go fuk himself.
  2. Subscribermchill
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    11 Sep '19 08:09
    @sonhouse said
    So the position was offered to one admiral who turned it down and 3 more idiots took the job. McMaster wasn't an idiot but he was stupid for taking a job that was a dead end since Trump doesn't WANT advice and guess what, after the I FIRED HIM, NO I QUIT crap plays out, guess who Trump called up in panic: McMaster. PLEASE COME BACK ALL IS FORGIVEN.
    I hope McMaster tells Trump to go fuk himself.
    Revolving door may be an understatement. If the Trumpster only hires the "best people" then why are so many of these "best people" either in jail, under investigation, recently fired, or have pled guilty to crimes, and are cooperating with prosecutors??

    I think most of us could find better people at the local grocery store.
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    11 Sep '19 08:19
    hope this won't turn into a mocking Trump thread.

    Bolton is basically a war criminal. Everything Bolton does is with the aim to sour relations and bring about another war, the opponent doesn't matter.


    Firing Bolton is a good thing. Trump did a good thing. If you mock him when he does good things, even for the wrong reasons (or no reasons) you don't deserve to call yourself a reasonable person.
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    11 Sep '19 08:303 edits
    @zahlanzi said
    hope this won't turn into a mocking Trump thread.

    Bolton is basically a war criminal. Everything Bolton does is with the aim to sour relations and bring about another war, the opponent doesn't matter.


    Firing Bolton is a good thing. Trump did a good thing. If you mock him when he does good things, even for the wrong reasons (or no reasons) you don't deserve to call yourself a reasonable person.
    Firing Bolton is a good thing.

    This may be true, but if Donald Trump is the "stable genius" he claims to be, then why did he hire John Boulton, Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn the small army of other characters (now departed) in the first place??

    Or does bringing this topic up disqualify me a "reasonable person" 😏
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    11 Sep '19 10:15
    @zahlanzi said
    hope this won't turn into a mocking Trump thread.

    Bolton is basically a war criminal. Everything Bolton does is with the aim to sour relations and bring about another war, the opponent doesn't matter.


    Firing Bolton is a good thing. Trump did a good thing. If you mock him when he does good things, even for the wrong reasons (or no reasons) you don't deserve to call yourself a reasonable person.
    Don't stop there. Trump is the ONLY president in a long time not to start a war.

    Where in the hell is the love?

    Trump's foreign policy is easily his biggest attribute as Obama's was an abject failure. Mr. Red Lines in the Sand and Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, had no clue.
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    11 Sep '19 13:18
    @zahlanzi said
    hope this won't turn into a mocking Trump thread.

    Bolton is basically a war criminal. Everything Bolton does is with the aim to sour relations and bring about another war, the opponent doesn't matter.


    Firing Bolton is a good thing. Trump did a good thing. If you mock him when he does good things, even for the wrong reasons (or no reasons) you don't deserve to call yourself a reasonable person.
    His replacement's not much better.
  7. SubscriberSuzianne
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    11 Sep '19 13:191 edit
    @whodey said
    Don't stop there. Trump is the ONLY president in a long time not to start a war.

    Where in the hell is the love?

    Trump's foreign policy is easily his biggest attribute as Obama's was an abject failure. Mr. Red Lines in the Sand and Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, had no clue.
    Not to mention the killing of Osama bin Laden.

    Super big fail there, eh, whodey?
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    11 Sep '19 14:57
    @suzianne said
    Not to mention the killing of Osama bin Laden.

    Super big fail there, eh, whodey?
    Yes.
    The US named him a terrorist (a criminal) and the man should have been brought to stand trial.

    Not murdered.
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    11 Sep '19 15:491 edit
    @zahlanzi said
    hope this won't turn into a mocking Trump thread.

    Bolton is basically a war criminal. Everything Bolton does is with the aim to sour relations and bring about another war, the opponent doesn't matter.


    Firing Bolton is a good thing. Trump did a good thing. If you mock him when he does good things, even for the wrong reasons (or no reasons) you don't deserve to call yourself a reasonable person.
    Correcting an obvious blunder shouldn’t be mocked, nor should it be praised unless the praise is strategic.
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    11 Sep '19 16:14
    @shavixmir said
    Yes.
    The US named him a terrorist (a criminal) and the man should have been brought to stand trial.

    Not murdered.
    Bin Laden wasn’t going to be taken alive, IMO.
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    @zahlanzi said
    hope this won't turn into a mocking Trump thread.

    Bolton is basically a war criminal. Everything Bolton does is with the aim to sour relations and bring about another war, the opponent doesn't matter.


    Firing Bolton is a good thing. Trump did a good thing. If you mock him when he does good things, even for the wrong reasons (or no reasons) you don't deserve to call yourself a reasonable person.
    Firing Bolton was a good thing.
    Question remains .... why was he hired in the first place ?
    This is an administration in serious disarray.

    If Trump had been the CEO of a Fortune 500 company, he would have been gone in 6 months.
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    11 Sep '19 16:181 edit
    @mghrn55 said
    Bin Laden wasn’t going to be taken alive, IMO.
    And that is precisely why "due process" is LAW.

    They don't want us to know what he has to say. And even if OBL is guilty of 911, the fact that he got no due process - aka, a trial, makes the DoJ and all of America look quite suspicious
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    @mghrn55 said
    Bin Laden wasn’t going to be taken alive, IMO.
    Yet, that’s how civilization deals with criminals.
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    11 Sep '19 19:07
    @sonhouse

    It was obvious form the start that Bolton - Trump was a marriage of inconvenience. Bolton has principles (whether you agree with them or not); Trump has none. Bolton is a grown-up with a strategic view (whether you agree with it or not); Trump is not and has none. Bolton can follow a factual argument to its logical conclusion (whether you agree with it or not); Trump can’t. Finally, Bolton speaks his mind, whether he agrees with Trump or not; Trump cannot abide that. It was a doomed relationship.
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    11 Sep '19 19:09
    @shavixmir said
    Yet, that’s how civilization deals with criminals.
    That’s how civilization deals with savages. Criminals are treated to due process of law.
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