How many deaths caused by vaccines?

@mghrn55 said
Most recent CDC data.
Unvaccinated vs Vaccinated....
11 times more likely to die from COVID
6 times more likely to become infected with COVID

I see the response from the Eladar and Metalbrain corner.
CDC data does not match our narrative
Therefore CDC data is fake and corrupted
Therefore we continue our narrative

Carry on.......

Are you claiming the CDC counts all breakthrough infections?
Yes or no?

@metal-brain said
Are you claiming the CDC counts all breakthrough infections?
Yes or no?

My post indicates that vaccinated people can be infected.
So that would seem to indicate that breakthrough infections are accounted for.

My post also said that if you don't like the data because it doesn't meet with your narrative, you will come up with something to complain about.
CDC lies.
CDC is corrupt.
CDC data is fake.
BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Stop polluting our debate forum with your tiresome drivel.

@mghrn55 said
My post indicates that vaccinated people can be infected.
So that would seem to indicate that breakthrough infections are accounted for.

My post also said that if you don't like the data because it doesn't meet with your narrative, you will come up with something to complain about.
CDC lies.
CDC is corrupt.
CDC data is fake.
BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Stop polluting our debate forum with your tiresome drivel.

The CDC changed the way they count breakthrough infections. They now count deaths and hospitalizations, but none of the other infections. They count all of the unvaccinated infections though.

That is right. They don't count all infections of the vaccinated, but they count all infections of the unvaccinated. The CDC openly admits they count cases differently. It is a fact.

@mghrn55
WELL SAID.

@Metal-Brain
So THIS is a lie also, right?

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
So THIS is a lie also, right?

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

That doesn't contradict anything I have said.
Learn to read.

In the Dutch news today: Delta variant is cause of unvaccinated pregnant women ending up in intensive care.

Numbers, figures, etc. all available. For example:

https://nos.nl/liveblog/2402099-zwangeren-vaker-op-ic-door-deltavariant-sydney-versoepelt-coronaregels-verder

You'll have to use google translate though.

Now, for those pro-lifers... does this mean the woman is actively endangering her "baby" by not getting vaccinated?

Dear oh dear... the holes moronity dig...

@shavixmir said
In the Dutch news today: Delta variant is cause of unvaccinated pregnant women ending up in intensive care.

Numbers, figures, etc. all available. For example:

https://nos.nl/liveblog/2402099-zwangeren-vaker-op-ic-door-deltavariant-sydney-versoepelt-coronaregels-verder

You'll have to use google translate though.

Now, for those pro-lifers... does this mean the ...[text shortened]... vely endangering her "baby" by not getting vaccinated?

Dear oh dear... the holes moronity dig...

for the libs…does this mean the women dont have any choice?

@mott-the-hoople said
for the libs…does this mean the women dont have any choice?

Of course she has the choice. We don’t care if she chooses to live with her fetus or die with or without it.