Had to get this out there to help us understand stuf.

Here is a post by Wildgrass....I am not accusing or demeaning him, but I think that since liberals will not say what they truly think, like we all do, I have to read between the lines sometimes. So I am only repeating him. In this post, he says....".....that (having that debt ) delayed his marriage and buying a home". He did pay off his loan, but he is speaking in general terms, saying that having student debt is.....what...unfair? Now everyone, it is not just ole Wildgrass, ALL of you blame some outside person or entity for your problems, as you forever want more stuf. Here, it appears he is blaming the nice loan officer who made it possible for him to go to college,.. he went to the officer, the officer did not come to him. Or, he is blaming the government for poor choices, or whatever it was that brought him into his situation . So, make your own decisions, I have only reported facts. Sonhouse et al are better with opinions. This is not meant to single him out, as you all are that way. What is the deal, as my granny would say? Maybe Marauder can apply his fave word selfish, should a guy take certain monies that are not available to others in his society ?


@averagejoe1 said
Rephrased, if spending public money in the name of job creation is a massive red flag , what is spending public money in the name of paying off personal debts?
Yikes, we're going back to 9th grade economics here. And also irrelevant to the thread but....

Full disclosure: I had student debt and it took me 20 years to pay it off in $100 increments. Painful. Having that debt delayed marriage and home ownership.

Despite my sacrifice and that I can't capitalize on the recent developments, I don't resent in any way the loan forgiveness plan. It will put more people in direct interaction with our economy at an earlier stage. It's a good idea.

Billions in tax forgiveness for billionaires is far more problematic.

Unreadable. Sorry.

@shavixmir

So, am I the only one who looks at Joe's avatar and is reminded of the bottom of a galvanized metal trash can? Something like this:

https://www.belson.com/Galvanized-Trash-Cans-Lids-Pails

Well hey, I think I found Joe himself:

https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_1182904

@soothfast said
@shavixmir

So, am I the only one who looks at Joe's avatar and is reminded of the bottom of a galvanized metal trash can? Something like this:

https://www.belson.com/Galvanized-Trash-Cans-Lids-Pails

Well hey, I think I found Joe himself:

https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_1182904

Hahaha is he as stupid as Joe appears to be.
I’ve always suspected it was a pre historic fossil of a bottom feeding sea creature.

@soothfast said
@shavixmir

So, am I the only one who looks at Joe's avatar and is reminded of the bottom of a galvanized metal trash can? Something like this:

https://www.belson.com/Galvanized-Trash-Cans-Lids-Pails

Well hey, I think I found Joe himself:

https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_1182904

It looks like a “Zeeuwse knoop”.
Which is… well, a stone knot from one of the Dutch provinces.

But, considering how small Joe’s world is, I can only imagine the trash can is closer to the truth.

@shavixmir
I'll shorten it. You all apparently agree that having the debt delayed his marriage, and his buying a home. Downer for you. What is to be done about it!?!? What a sad story.
My cousin is paying off her grocery bill of $500 by sending them $15 a week. Her sister just got her college loan aid off and is off Spain for some sun.
OK, continue with your jokes, and tell me that you do not understand me. Actually, you don't. Take that!!

@averagejoe1 said
My cousin is paying off her grocery bill of $500 by sending them $15 a week.

So, you're a successful businessman, probably made nearly a million. Must've made many billions, in fact, judging by how scared you are of the megabillionaires being taken to account. But never mind that, this argument would work even if you "only" made about a million, no more. Just enough to buy a decent house and not have to worry about taxes.

And you have a cousin who needs to pay off a grocery bill of $500 in instalments? And you never even considered helping her out? All your wealth, and you never had the mere Christian decency of helping those in less fortune?

How much of a Mammon-worshipping, devilish, anti-Christian, hateful monster are you, Joe? How can you sleep at night? How can you not live in fear of eternal damnation and hellfire for your selfishness, greed, and hatred?

@shallow-blue said
So, you're a successful businessman, probably made nearly a million. Must've made many billions, in fact, judging by how scared you are of the megabillionaires being taken to account. But never mind that, this argument would work even if you "only" made about a million, no more. Just enough to buy a decent house and not have to worry about taxes.

And you have a cousin ...[text shortened]... can you not live in fear of eternal damnation and hellfire for your selfishness, greed, and hatred?

Ad hominems aside, I have no Interest in helping this woman because she has tattooed her entire body, has a cheek ring, and seems to want to use money that was earned by other people.
Give me a Reason to pay off her grocery bill that makes sense, and I will. No problem.
Oh, for the record I have given her money before. Is there ever a point that you think it’s OK for men who work to stop giving money to people that don’t work? I think I’m at that point with her.
Back at ya.

@averagejoe1 said
@shavixmir
I'll shorten it. You all apparently agree that having the debt delayed his marriage, and his buying a home. Downer for you. What is to be done about it!?!? What a sad story.
My cousin is paying off her grocery bill of $500 by sending them $15 a week. Her sister just got her college loan aid off and is off Spain for some sun.
OK, continue with your jokes, and tell me that you do not understand me. Actually, you don't. Take that!!

Sorry dude. You’re off topic.
We’re talking about your avatar.

@shavixmir said
Sorry dude. You’re off topic.
We’re talking about your avatar.

This has me laughing my ass off.

@shavixmir said
Sorry dude. You’re off topic.
We’re talking about your avatar.

Apologies, I am really not given to opening random links. I am only here for one reason, to see how libs can think like they do. The group thing, dependence, the welcome govt influence on their person, equal at end of day, such as that.
Actually the avatar is a Mexican saddle horn, but I figure you likely would not like to hear about AJoe hobbies. I don’t have a hobby of studying past history, Jan 6, et al. I do have one of of trying to find good in socialism , can y’all key me in on that?😹🥴

@averagejoe1 said
Ad hominems aside, I have no Interest in helping this woman

So, you're not a Christian or even as little as a human being. But you do love to bring her plight up to make yourself look better.

Thank you for confirming that you are less than the dregs of humanity.

@shallow-blue said
So, you're not a Christian or even as little as a human being. But you do love to bring her plight up to make yourself look better.

Thank you for confirming that you are less than the dregs of humanity.

Already did help her, I’d mentioned that? Next you will want me to go into tremendous personal information and explanation. I already helped her. Like the govt is helping with tuition, after already handing out free money for a year!🙃. Which begs the same question I asked above, at what point do you stop giving money and assistance to people who can otherwise take care of themselves? Maybe I will just walk in the store and pay her $500, anonymously, and then change my phone number☎️But seriously, how much should I keep it up with her? There are other people who need help. Along the same lines as having people who are getting tuition payment, when there are other people that need help.

@averagejoe1 said
Apologies, I am really not given to opening random links. I am only here for one reason, to see how libs can think like they do. The group thing, dependence, the welcome govt influence on their person, equal at end of day, such as that.
Actually the avatar is a Mexican saddle horn, but I figure you likely would not like to hear about AJoe hobbies. I don’t have a ho ...[text shortened]... 6, et al. I do have one of of trying to find good in socialism , can y’all key me in on that?😹🥴

You're not here to learn anything, including "how liberals think." You're here to troll and hear yourself shout.

The kind of Darwinian capitalistic shіthole you envision as the ideal social arrangement would collapse into chaos within a year, ending only in civil war and a revolution.

@soothfast said
You're not here to learn anything, including "how liberals think." You're here to troll and hear yourself shout.

The kind of Darwinian capitalistic shіthole you envision as the ideal social arrangement would collapse into chaos within a year, ending only in civil war and a revolution.

Been doing fine for 250 years,,,,tell us why it has to change, please? The “ social arrangement” I believe you call it?