1. Standard membervivify
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    24 Nov '20 14:21
    https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/what-is-a-frivolous-lawsuit.html#:~:text=Filing%20a%20frivolous%20lawsuit%20is,filings%2C%20criminal%20consequences%20can%20result.

    What Is a Frivolous Lawsuit?
    A frivolous lawsuit is any lawsuit that is filed with the intention of harassing, annoying, or disturbing the opposite party. It may also be defined as any lawsuit in which the plaintiff knows that there is little or no chance of the lawsuit succeeding if pursued in court.

    Another reason why frivolous lawsuits may be filed is to delay another type of legal proceeding.

    Are There Any Consequences for Filing a Frivolous Lawsuit?
    Filing a frivolous lawsuit is usually looked down upon by courts. In most cases, filing a frivolous lawsuit will lead to a civil fine of a certain amount of dollars (sometimes in the thousands). It may also lead to a contempt order.

    Doesn't Trump's lawsuit fit this description? If so, can't this also be considered a crime?

    Can Trump be punished for this when he leaves office?
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    24 Nov '20 15:37
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    '...Can Trump be punished for this when he leaves office?'

    Probably no one on the left wants to stir up anything especially when it concerns something as important as a US election. Of course that thought doesn't seem to have occurred to the Trump team. He may be liable in a court for other areas such as money or taxes.

    What I dislike Trump for isn't illegal actions, but his cruel, petty, meanspirited, and vulgar actions and words for the last four years. From mocking a disabled reporter to selling canned beans from the Oval Office to lies about the election results.
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    24 Nov '20 20:20
    And here is an op-ed from the New York Times that directly addresses that question.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/24/opinion/trump-prosecution.html

    tldr: Yes.
  4. Subscribermoonbus
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    24 Nov '20 21:211 edit
    @vivify

    While Trump's suits challenging the election results may seem frivolous to the layman, and the courts may ultimately decide them to be frivolous, it is anything but frivolous for Trump himself, whether he gets re-elected or not. There are several suits pending against Donald Trump; see the link below:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54716550

    At the present time, the suits are stalled because, as a sitting president, he enjoys immunity from indictments and has used the power of his office to dodge subpoenas and suppress investigations. If he were to be re-elected, he could continue to stall and stonewall until the statute of limitations runs out, which would occur during a 2d term for him. In other words, he'd be off scot free, if re-elected. Whereas, if he is no longer president on 21.1.21, he will have no immunity from indictments, no power to dodge subpoenas, no Wm. Barr in his pocket to suppress investigations, etc. and the suits can proceed. At least one of the suits is on a felony charge, which, if convicted, would carry a prison sentence. So it's not trivial at all, whether he gets re-elected. Whether he is called to account depends very much on the outcome of this election, and he knows that very well. His strategy of contesting the election has everything to do with his own personal liberty: Biden's not going to prison if he loses; Trump may well do, so it is easy to understand why Trump has fought this campaign so tenaciously, grasping at straws to win it.
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    24 Nov '20 22:18
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    Exactly !! My thoughts exactly.
    The sense I have gotten is that other 1st term Presidents have sought a 2nd term out of completing their vision for the country they led, or simply sought to pursue their personal ambitions.
    With Trump, the above 2 factors would apply. But added to that was the sense that Trump needed the 2nd term.
    And you have outlined that scenario well.

    Time will tell if that assessment is correct.
    But for those who are embracing the possibility of Trump 2024, I tend to think that he will have more pressing personal issues to address.
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    25 Nov '20 08:10
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    This also explains why Trump has some really wacko people on board: he is desperate to hear that he still has a chance to win, and of course there are people who will tell him whatever he wants to hear. He's living in a filter-bubble of yes-men and yes-women.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55040756
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