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    Or is she really a poisonous, blinkered apologetic for her Government’s atrocities? The Chinese government’s surveillance of its citizens behaviours, including internet usage is astonishing!

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/02/china-surveillance/552203/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_China

    https://time.com/5735411/china-surveillance-privacy-issues/

    https://fortune.com/2020/11/03/china-surveillance-system-backlash-worlds-largest/

    China really isn’t a safe place to live.
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    I’m aware of what you’ve “ALREADY” said, I suppose that I just find your explanation simply unbelievable.

    So I am looking for other reasons to excuse your apologetics and denial of genocide by a government who oppresses it citizens freedoms.
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    No, most people here observe international news, media coverage and opinion. Most aren’t in denial, you seem to be.
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    I’m not interested in your jazz-handed whataboutisms Duchess64.

    This thread is about the oppression of independent thought in China through the surveillance of its citizens, especially the monitoring of internet usage.
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    If you are not, then just unequivocally say so.
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    I will hand you this... You have done a good job at exposing the hateful troll that is in continual racist attack mode
    against whites, particularly Brits and Americans. Racism cannot be eradicated but it can be identified and challenged
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    Hahaha
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    @averagejoe1 said
    Hahaha
    Ya, Joe, dig it??

    It's the old "If you say the Chinese are guilty it is because you are racist". How many times have I seen this one pulled??
    I think Israel/Jews do this every once in a while, too. If you criticize Israel for crimes committed you are an anti-Semite!! Ha!

    [yawn] 😴 😴 😴
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    @divegeester said
    Or is she really a poisonous, blinkered apologetic for her Government’s atrocities? The Chinese government’s surveillance of its citizens behaviours, including internet usage is astonishing!

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/02/china-surveillance/552203/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_China

    https://time.com/5735411/chin ...[text shortened]... 1/03/china-surveillance-system-backlash-worlds-largest/

    China really isn’t a safe place to live.
    Or is she really a poisonous, blinkered apologetic for her Government’s atrocities?


    If I may suggest - harping on China's misdeeds makes little sense considering the (less than) stellar history of Britain or America. The Chinese government is by no means innocent, I agree, but before those in the west start hurling accusations at China, they should take a long, hard look in the mirror and clean up their own backyard first.

    No country has cornered the market on virtue. 🙂
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    @divegeester said
    I’m aware of what you’ve “ALREADY” said, I suppose that I just find your explanation simply unbelievable.

    So I am looking for other reasons to excuse your apologetics and denial of genocide by a government who oppresses it citizens freedoms.
    Hell, I wish that she would write in simple english. Like if we were having serious chat at a Pub, where she might say (as Shallowblue did in the Brit-China) thread), just something So Wrong.. He said Ayn Rand is (was) liberal). So we would chat, no links, just up front thinking about the nature of, say, torture in China, things like that. In simple english.
    She will not answer my question in that thread (did China chide USA for promoting Democracy in other countries), I was just being nice!!! But since she didn't, here is another ....telll us what you know about torture in China. Thousands of paragraphs about China, but not a word about hanging someone up by their heels, such as that. We would like to know, to get ready.......
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