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    https://off-guardian.org/2021/05/18/how-the-cdc-is-manipulating-data-to-prop-up-vaccine-effectiveness/

    Source: The CDC itself.

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

    "As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause. This shift will help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance."

    Maximize the quality of the data? LOL! Ridiculous!
    No, it is to hide the true number of breakthrough cases to fool you into thinking the vaccines are more effective than they are.
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    This entire COVID event has been a propaganda event designed to create fear among the general population.

    Part of the reason for the need for fear is to drive people to get a new vaccine to raise funds. When they give out all the vaccines they can give, there must be a new reason to get another shot.
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    @eladar said
    This entire COVID event has been a propaganda event designed to create fear among the general population.

    Part of the reason for the need for fear is to drive people to get a new vaccine to raise funds. When they give out all the vaccines they can give, there must be a new reason to get another shot.
    When they give out all the vaccines they can give, there must be a new reason to get another shot.


    I wonder if you and Mr. metal brain have considered the idea these shots are being given out to keep people from dying, and that there might just be a tiny connection between states with low vaccination rates where the virus is raging out of control, and other states with high vaccination rates where cases and deaths continue to fall.

    or -

    are you 2 so engrossed with your deep state, conspiracy theory nonsense, that you can't see what's right in front of you??
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    @mchill said
    When they give out all the vaccines they can give, there must be a new reason to get another shot.


    I wonder if you and Mr. metal brain have considered the idea these shots are being given out to keep people from dying, and that there might just be a tiny connection between states with low vaccination rates where the virus is raging out of control, and other states with hi ...[text shortened]... with your deep state, conspiracy theory nonsense, that you can't see what's right in front of you??
    I wonder if you understand that only people with immune problems die after getting COVID. COVID does not kill, what kills is bad immune response. These cases are rare.

    The older you get, the more immune issues become a problem which is why 80 percent of COVID deaths are people 65 or older.

    Now to the vaccines. They are about 50 to 60 percent effective, and the effectiveness stops as the immune system gets worse. This means for the elderly, the effectiveness is less than 50 to 60 percent.

    Studies show that supplementing vitamin D levels to 50 ng will prevent over 50 percent of COVID deaths for those older than 50. Lots of 50's there.
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    @metal-brain said
    https://off-guardian.org/2021/05/18/how-the-cdc-is-manipulating-data-to-prop-up-vaccine-effectiveness/

    Source: The CDC itself.

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

    "As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or f ...[text shortened]... umber of breakthrough cases to fool you into thinking the vaccines are more effective than they are.
    Nut-job content, but I love the site name.
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    @eladar said
    This entire COVID event has been a propaganda event designed to create fear among the general population.

    Part of the reason for the need for fear is to drive people to get a new vaccine to raise funds. When they give out all the vaccines they can give, there must be a new reason to get another shot.
    And that it got Trump removed from the White House is an added bonus. 😆
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    @mchill said
    When they give out all the vaccines they can give, there must be a new reason to get another shot.


    I wonder if you and Mr. metal brain have considered the idea these shots are being given out to keep people from dying, and that there might just be a tiny connection between states with low vaccination rates where the virus is raging out of control, and other states with hi ...[text shortened]... with your deep state, conspiracy theory nonsense, that you can't see what's right in front of you??
    Sorry to interrupt your new religion of Branch Covidianism, but all you have to do is read the CDC's own statement. They are covering up breakthrough cases and they tell you how they are doing it right on their website.
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    @sh76 said
    Nut-job content, but I love the site name.
    The source is the CDC itself you moron!
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    @metal-brain said
    https://off-guardian.org/2021/05/18/how-the-cdc-is-manipulating-data-to-prop-up-vaccine-effectiveness/

    Source: The CDC itself.

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

    "As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or f ...[text shortened]... umber of breakthrough cases to fool you into thinking the vaccines are more effective than they are.
    Wait, I thought the CDC was manipulating data by altering the test results themselves? Wasn't that what the last CDC manipulation thread was about?

    It doesn't make sense they would deliberately do this in addition to altering the outcome of the tests. This seems like a completely superfluous level of manipulation.
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    @metal-brain said
    https://off-guardian.org/2021/05/18/how-the-cdc-is-manipulating-data-to-prop-up-vaccine-effectiveness/

    Source: The CDC itself.

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

    "As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or f ...[text shortened]... umber of breakthrough cases to fool you into thinking the vaccines are more effective than they are.
    Elvis is still alive!
    And not vaccinated.
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    @wildgrass said
    Wait, I thought the CDC was manipulating data by altering the test results themselves? Wasn't that what the last CDC manipulation thread was about?

    It doesn't make sense they would deliberately do this in addition to altering the outcome of the tests. This seems like a completely superfluous level of manipulation.
    They altered the outcome of the tests to have more false positives before vaccinations. Then they altered the outcome to have more false negatives after vaccinations to make them seem more effective than they are.

    Now they changed how they count breakthrough cases. They only count deaths and hospitalizations and the rest are not counted at all. It is a corrupt systematic effort to mislead people into thinking vaccines are more effective than they are.

    It is obvious to everyone but shav. He is a branch covidian with blind faith.
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    I am not vaccinated. I wonder how likely it is that I will be killed by covid.
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    @metal-brain said
    They altered the outcome of the tests to have more false positives before vaccinations. Then they altered the outcome to have more false negatives after vaccinations to make them seem more effective than they are.

    Now they changed how they count breakthrough cases. They only count deaths and hospitalizations and the rest are not counted at all. It is a corrupt systemat ...[text shortened]... ive than they are.

    It is obvious to everyone but shav. He is a branch covidian with blind faith.
    Why? Makes no sense. They've got millions of people running a worldwide scam just for kicks and some pharma revenue?

    CDC is manipulating data to both inflate the number of COVID cases and to deflate them?

    The vaccines don't work / are fake but also extremely harmful for our health and immune systems?

    In other threads, it seems that the virus is man-made but also might not exist?

    All of this belies the foundation of knowledge that we've known for decades which is that 8-20% of our own DNA is viral in origin. Viruses are common, have been infecting mankind forever, often jump species, infections have enigmatic and unpredictable disease severities, and epidemiologists have been predicting this exact scenario for 20 years.
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    @wildgrass

    Inflate the numbers of COVID deaths for unvaccinated, decrease deaths who were vaccinated.

    Propaganda.
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    @wildgrass said
    Why? Makes no sense. They've got millions of people running a worldwide scam just for kicks and some pharma revenue?

    CDC is manipulating data to both inflate the number of COVID cases and to deflate them?

    The vaccines don't work / are fake but also extremely harmful for our health and immune systems?

    In other threads, it seems that the virus is man-made but also mi ...[text shortened]... table disease severities, and epidemiologists have been predicting this exact scenario for 20 years.
    Asking why has no bearing on the fact they did that. I am not making this up. You have the CDC website saying they changed the way they count breakthrough cases. Do you not believe your own eyes?

    The WHO admits there screwed up in regards to PCR tests.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/nucleic-acid-testing-technologies-use-polymerase-chain-reaction-pcr-detection-sars-cov-2/5739959

    Some pharma revenue? Do you have any idea how much profit Pfizer is making? Do you have any clue at all? Greed makes no sense? What are you thinking?
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