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    @metal-brain said
    Vaccinated breakthrough cases are counted differently than the unvaccinated. You need to count all breakthrough cases to compare them to the unvaccinated. Those infections are all counted, not just hospitalizations and deaths.

    You don't seem to want to accept facts.
    Reptoids did 9/11
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    https://off-guardian.org/2021/05/18/how-the-cdc-is-manipulating-data-to-prop-up-vaccine-effectiveness/

    Source: The CDC itself.

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

    "As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause. This shift will help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance."

    Maximize the quality of the data? LOL! Ridiculous!
    No, it is to hide the true number of breakthrough cases to fool you into thinking the vaccines are more effective than they are.
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    Shav thinks manipulating data is good. Lies are always good to him.
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    21 U.S. Code § 360bbb–3 - Authorization for medical products for use in emergencies

    (c) Criteria for issuance of authorization

    (B) the known and potential benefits of the product, when used to diagnose, prevent, or treat such disease or condition, outweigh the known and potential risks of the product, taking into consideration the material threat posed by the agent or agents identified in a declaration under subsection

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/21/360bbb-3

    That would explain the manipulated data.
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    @metal-brain said
    https://off-guardian.org/2021/05/18/how-the-cdc-is-manipulating-data-to-prop-up-vaccine-effectiveness/

    Source: The CDC itself.

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

    "As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or f ...[text shortened]... umber of breakthrough cases to fool you into thinking the vaccines are more effective than they are.
    Why don't you tell us what the real numbers are ?
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    @metal-brain said
    https://off-guardian.org/2021/05/18/how-the-cdc-is-manipulating-data-to-prop-up-vaccine-effectiveness/

    Source: The CDC itself.

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

    "As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or f ...[text shortened]... umber of breakthrough cases to fool you into thinking the vaccines are more effective than they are.
    You idiot the whole point of vaccination is to reduce hospitalisations and deaths.
    Why bother counting the cases where the vaccine is doing EXACTLY what it’s supposed to do and they are acting honestly and responsibly by monitoring the cases of vaccinated being hospitalised. It will give information on the effectiveness of the vaccines and detect any variants that might be avoiding the vaccines.
    Anti vaxxers are a heady mix of stoopid, dishonest and nasty.
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    @kevcvs57 said
    You idiot the whole point of vaccination is to reduce hospitalisations and deaths.
    Why bother counting the cases where the vaccine is doing EXACTLY what it’s supposed to do and they are acting honestly and responsibly by monitoring the cases of vaccinated being hospitalised. It will give information on the effectiveness of the vaccines and detect any variants that might be avoiding the vaccines.
    Anti vaxxers are a heady mix of stoopid, dishonest and nasty.
    How many hospitalizations and deaths are there?

    My brother took the gene vaccine and he is slowly dying. He is in the hospital right now. Is that what the gene vaccines are supposed to do?
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    @metal-brain said
    How many hospitalizations and deaths are there?

    My brother took the gene vaccine and he is slowly dying. He is in the hospital right now. Is that what the gene vaccines are supposed to do?
    No obviously not and I hope your brother recovers from whatever is ailing him but I don’t need ever more interpretations of the data. The UK is really well vaccinated and whilst the cases of transmission are still high the amount of deaths and severe illness are way down. There is only one interpretation possible for that scenario, Vaccination increases your chance of survival vis a vis non Vaccination. There are always risks, our job as individuals is to evaluate them and make a decision based on observable facts not opinions and I’ll be taking the booster jag when I’m offered it.
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    @kevcvs57 said
    No obviously not and I hope your brother recovers from whatever is ailing him but I don’t need ever more interpretations of the data. The UK is really well vaccinated and whilst the cases of transmission are still high the amount of deaths and severe illness are way down. There is only one interpretation possible for that scenario, Vaccination increases your chance of surviv ...[text shortened]... ision based on observable facts not opinions and I’ll be taking the booster jag when I’m offered it.
    As of August 15, 2021, 68% of COVID patients admitted to hospital in the U.K. who were over the age of 50 had received one or two doses of COVID injections.

    https://www.technocracy.news/60-of-those-older-than-50-who-die-from-covid-are-double-vaxxed/

    Are you sure you know what is going on in your own country?
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    This thread title is a fact, not a theory.
    Right shav? Right suzi? Right kev?
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