Boris’ father has applied for an EU passport, so his grand children can be European?
Rich brexit supporters are moving to Europe; like Jim Ratcliffe!
Reese-Mogg... has moved his wealth to Ireland...
Well. I wonder if this is saying anything?
Matches my sister's experience who was made redundant by a Dutch company pre-pandemic. Interestingly they didn't close down in Glasgow which made me wonder how they saw the future playing out.
@petewxyzsaid Matches my sister's experience who was made redundant by a Dutch company pre-pandemic. Interestingly they didn't close down in Glasgow which made me wonder how they saw the future playing out.
During the 2016 brexit referendum, the leave campaign were saying Britain would remain in the single market and get a better deal; more money for the NHS, saving the fishing industry, no border checks in Ireland and taking control of “our”’own borders.
Now, 4 years later, the the same people (like Gove and Pettel) have the following on offer:
Absolutely out of the single market (with all the consequences of WHO rules), no deal at all (and indeed, all trade deals with other countries are scrapped as well), the cuts on the NHS are still happening (even after the Corona crisis), Northern Ireland’s being thrown to the wolves and, formthe foreseeable future, no checks on goods coming into the country and the fishing and farming industries are “not worth saving”
I’m just wondering if this is what the leave campaign had in mind all along?
And do they seriously think this path is still in Britain’s best interest.
I mean, I’m just wondering. There’s nothing to be done about it anymore. So it’s a given.
But, I’m just wondering if the leavers still think the government is giving them what they initially asked for.
During the 2016 brexit referendum, the leave campaign were saying Britain would remain in the single market and get a better deal; more money for the NHS, saving the fishing industry, no border checks in Ireland and taking control of “our”’own borders.
Now, 4 years later, the the same people (like Gove and Pettel) have the following on offer:
Absolutel ...[text shortened]... st wondering if the leavers still think the government is giving them what they initially asked for.
To answer your question; I’m not sure what the “Leave” campaign had in mind all along. I didn’t subscribe to their campaigning idealism and promises.
I want out. I want out from an ideological perspective and if it costs, it costs. Which it will a bit I expect, but the longer term benefits will outweigh any short term issues. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again and again and again, the EU is a broken reed and an abhorrence of what it was initially intended to be. It is become a political octopus sucking in power and wealth form the nation states it claims to represent and the sooner it killed off the better. It is now an overblown undemocratic corporation filled with fat cats and gravy-train riding lightweights. Europe can do MUCH better, and will.
Hope this helps with your undying concern over our democratically voted for exit.
@shavixmirsaid Absolutely out of the single market (with all the consequences of WHO rules), no deal at all (and indeed, all trade deals with other countries are scrapped as well), the cuts on the NHS are still happening (even after the Corona crisis), Northern Ireland’s being thrown to the wolves and, formthe foreseeable future, no checks on goods coming into the country and the fishing ...[text shortened]... e “not worth saving”
I’m just wondering if this is what the leave campaign had in mind all along?
Yes, of course it was what they had in mind all along. It was a clever coup by a bunch of free-market extremists who couldn't live even with the pitifully inadequate degree of regulation insisted upon by Brussels and want to turn us into Singapore-on-Thames. They knew that this vision of Britain governed by millionaires for the benefit of foreign billionaires would not sell, so they lied about their intentions. Thus we heard even Nigel Farage commenting on how well Switzerland and Norway were doing outside the EU, as if the Norwegian model was what he had in mind.
Not everyone who campaigned for Brexit was a billionaire, and not everyone who voted for Brexit was a racist. But I still think in the end that it was a trick played by billionaires on racists.
@ghost-of-a-dukesaid The auto mod will always remove posts that contain the 'n' word (even if innocently embedded in another word).
But if you raise an objection shouldn’t the human mods reinstate the post, the word in question has insinuated itself into quite a few perfectly innocent words.