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    @rajk999 said
    Why do you keep missing the point? Cuba of course will have a far better life with trade. But they do not deserve to trade with the US. Venezuela did the same thing. They expelled all foreign interests and seized their assets. They are now suffering. They deserve it.

    IF they were taking care of their people why the current revolt?
    So we stole Cuba fair and square?
    Stealing from thieves is unethical? LOL!

    Should we give the USA back to the native Americans? Is that what we deserve?
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    @metal-brain said
    So we stole Cuba fair and square?
    Stealing from thieves is unethical? LOL!

    Should we give the USA back to the native Americans? Is that what we deserve?
    You still going on about that? The Cuban govt stole the assets of foreign interests and expelled them. They paid the price. Thats life. Tell them get over it. Or they can be mature about it and beg the US Govt for forgiveness... lol
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    @metal-brain said
    You are denying accepted history. Cuba was a colony of Spain before the USA invaded and took it from Spain.
    Not denying the history. But you say the USA lies about Cuba? Why would we have too, their crap is before your eyes. I assume you are speaking of today and not 1959?
    Look at today and tell us want you suggest. This should be interesting.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    Not denying the history. But you say the USA lies about Cuba? Why would we have too, their crap is before your eyes. I assume you are speaking of today and not 1959?
    Look at today and tell us want you suggest. This should be interesting.
    If Marxism is such an inherent failure that cannot compete why the domino theory of communism spreading like a cancer throughout South east Asia? Why the fear campaign of McCarthyism?

    They are not at all confident Socialism will collapse under it's own weight. It is obvious they fear it will spread if they don't fight it using propaganda (McCarthyism), war (Vietnam) and lies (universal failure).

    They fear people will gravitate to countries with beneficial social programs that people like. Socialism is a threat to the power of the very wealthy. It is also to the benefit of the poor. That is why they sabotage it every chance they get. They fear it big time.
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    @rajk999 said
    You still going on about that? The Cuban govt stole the assets of foreign interests and expelled them. They paid the price. Thats life. Tell them get over it. Or they can be mature about it and beg the US Govt for forgiveness... lol
    Have you ever seen the movie "Sea Wolf" with Christopher Reeves and Charles Bronson? It is a very good movie. You should watch it.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108061/
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    @metal-brain said
    If Marxism is such an inherent failure that cannot compete why the domino theory of communism spreading like a cancer throughout South east Asia? Why the fear campaign of McCarthyism?

    They are not at all confident Socialism will collapse under it's own weight. It is obvious they fear it will spread if they don't fight it using propaganda (McCarthyism), war (Vietnam) a ...[text shortened]... the benefit of the poor. That is why they sabotage it every chance they get. They fear it big time.
    How can Socialism benefit the poor, when it only tells the poor that life will be MORE HELLISH with each day of Socialism. ??? Really. You cannot say life gets better, so since it does not stay the same at same point, it can only get worse. And you can take the rich out of your comment, because there will no longer BE the rich.
    Nobody gets it!!! There are people on this Forum who defend Socialism.
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    Well it is clear as the nose plastered on your ugly face ALL you want to do is discredit dems NO MATTER HOW YOU DO IT.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    How can Socialism benefit the poor, when it only tells the poor that life will be MORE HELLISH with each day of Socialism. ??? Really. You cannot say life gets better, so since it does not stay the same at same point, it can only get worse. And you can take the rich out of your comment, because there will no longer BE the rich.
    Nobody gets it!!! There are people on this Forum who defend Socialism.
    What is your source of information?
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    @metal-brain said
    What is your source of information?
    Mostly from socialists on this forum who preach socialism. So, I look up socialism, and find that it will lead the country into hell, make the poor folks poorer, end innovation, end freedom and liberty (Cant have liberty at the same time you have govt control), and become a welfare state, etc etc.
    I worry about it for everyone, but not for me. The way to escape the misery is to BE a socialist, which I would do. The folks who will live under socialism,... that is who I will worry about. Will y'all still let me have more than one house and more than one car?
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    @AverageJoe1
    Well it is clear as the nose plastered on your ugly face ALL you want to do is discredit dems NO MATTER HOW YOU DO IT.
    And all you want to do is discredit Repubs NO MATTER HOW YOU DO IT.

    So, there.
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    No, I want repubs to return to the OLD party, you know, that one where they were for law and order? Not kissing the butt of Trump, by the MILLIONS.
    I can only assume you LIKE how republicans are acting on congress right now.

    STOP ANY DEM BILL. That is the sum total of repub contributions to governing.

    Tell me otherwise. Point out all the independent bills repubs passed to help the common folk.

    Go ahead. You can do it. DEFEND THEM.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    The key word above is ‘choose’. Generally Speaking, a group of people dont choose. Choosing is usually done by an individual person.
    So they wont get your premise above. It doesnt compute, they rather think that dealings are more complex, and just happen, And everyone ends up where they are. This is the product of group think, a recent concept which i believe started ...[text shortened]... a era, at about the same time he said he was going to transform America and spread the wealth around
    Check it out. You want your choice, don't you?

    Then why do you not give women their choice?
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    @suzianne said
    Check it out. You want your choice, don't you?

    Then why do you not give women their choice?
    females have a choice, they dont have the right to make choices for other females that are unborn.

    the time to make a decision is BEFORE you get knocked up
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    @suzianne said
    Check it out. You want your choice, don't you?

    Then why do you not give women their choice?
    50 times I have said women have a right to choose to have an abortion. My previous discussions were that I do not want to PAY for it. Is the not fair? IF your friend decided to get pregnant, maybe during recreational sex or because her husband made her, whatever, she wanted to get pregnant.

    Suzianne, if she 'changes her mind' about having a baby, do I stop what I am doing and pull my wallet out to cover the cost? She is YOUR friend, I have never met her No one has ever convinced me that our tax money should pay for people who change their minds. I bought some GM stock for $1000. It is now worth only $800. Should I not be given $200 to help me get back where I was? Given it by you?
    Yes I am into choice. She has a choice to abort, and I have a choice not to pay for it. Ole AvJoe is all about freedom. Hey, did you ever look up the definition of Liberty? Remember, it means less government control. Cool for you? Naaa, didnt think so. No liberty for Suzianne. Brrrrrrrr
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    @averagejoe1 said
    Mostly from socialists on this forum who preach socialism. So, I look up socialism, and find that it will lead the country into hell, make the poor folks poorer, end innovation, end freedom and liberty (Cant have liberty at the same time you have govt control), and become a welfare state, etc etc.
    I worry about it for everyone, but not for me. The way to escape the ...[text shortened]... is who I will worry about. Will y'all still let me have more than one house and more than one car?
    "So, I look up socialism, and find that it will lead the country into hell, make the poor folks poorer, end innovation, end freedom and liberty (Cant have liberty at the same time you have govt control), and become a welfare state, etc etc."

    Why? How would it make poor folks poorer?
    How would it end innovation?
    How would it end freedom and liberty?

    All countries have government control except where there is anarchy. You seem to think anarchy=liberty. That is absurd.

    You have a lot of explaining to do to convince people you are not spouting rhetoric. Nothing you are saying makes any sense, so why should I believe it?
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