1. SubscriberGertrude
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    10 Jul '22 19:42
    @very-rusty said
    You know it is an insult and most know you're not to be trusted lemon. You put yourself in that situation, no one else!

    -VR
    do you care what others think of you?
  2. SubscriberVery Rusty
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    10 Jul '22 20:401 edit
    @gertrude said
    do you care what others think of you?
    I can return the same question and not get an answer from you lemon. 🙂

    I already know what is thought of you!

    -VR
  3. SubscriberGertrude
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    10 Jul '22 20:44
    @very-rusty said
    I can return the same question and not get an answer from you lemon. 🙂

    I already know what is thought of you!

    -VR
    is it like one big collective mind that you have access too ?
  4. SubscriberVery Rusty
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    10 Jul '22 21:271 edit
    @gertrude said
    is it like one big collective mind that you have access too ?
    I know you have gooster and possible a few others who will back you and that is about it, unless you can prove me wrong. 🙂

    And you could turn on him anytime, just the way you are!

    -VR
  5. SubscriberVESPIN
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    29 Jul '22 01:42
    @very-rusty said
    Do you mean one that is honest and not making lopsided challenges which are being accepted by certain clan leaders! 🙂

    -VR
    Agreed 100% Well said. And Feeding points as well by clans. I am not pointing fingers or naming names. But it is all happening.
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    29 Jul '22 13:25
    @vespin said
    Agreed 100% Well said. And Feeding points as well by clans. I am not pointing fingers or naming names. But it is all happening.
    Nice to know that you are not pointing fingers.
    How did this line of narrative just start up again recently ?
  7. Standard memberBeowulf
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    30 Jul '22 21:25
    @gertrude said
    I still think that a reward is needed for the clan that finishes first
    Right after seperate clan ratings for clan games.

    Too many sandbaggers in the clan system.
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    @beowulf said
    Right after seperate clan ratings for clan games.

    Too many sandbaggers in the clan system.
    Sandbaggers are everywhere !! Check out the tournaments !!
  9. SubscriberPonderable
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    @gertrude said
    I still think that a reward is needed for the clan that finishes first
    So if we try to take your suggestion seriously:

    * What exactly would be the incentive? Players being able to show of an icon? Or the clan homepage (who is visiting that?)
    * Give free memberships to the winning clan? What would be the consequence?

    * How do you ensure that people think that fair play is observed? Umpire system?
  10. SubscriberVESPIN
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    @mghrn55 said
    Nice to know that you are not pointing fingers.
    How did this line of narrative just start up again recently ?
    I won't post anymore on this. But you are way to smart NOT to understand what I meant and what clans are doing it and which ones are not. If you look at all it's front of you. Simple as that. If Russ really investigated this it would not take him long to see. I am working on what I can in terms of proof but as you know it takes time.

    And if it stops its good for your clan , mine clan, all clans.

    Look at matches when they are done and see the difference in ratings. Now I understand sometimes this will happen depending on how long the match goes and ratings go up and down if the players have a lot of games.

    But it is all out there and easy to see. I would never point the finger, or put names out there that would be more than wrong of me. It must go through Russ first and then see what he thinks.

    I think the system we have is good. It can still be tweaked however. Each year we should be striving to improve it. I'm not like other leaders who just point fingers.

    It's nice to know I still have a thumbs down stalker. 🙂
  11. SubscriberVESPIN
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    @mghrn55

    You can see the sandbaggers in clan matches easily. Any leader who spends enough time vetting players and clans will see the sandbaggers immediately. I think in tournaments it's easier for them to hide.
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    @vespin said
    I won't post anymore on this. But you are way to smart NOT to understand what I meant and what clans are doing it and which ones are not. If you look at all it's front of you. Simple as that. If Russ really investigated this it would not take him long to see. I am working on what I can in terms of proof but as you know it takes time.

    And if it stops its good for your clan ...[text shortened]... other leaders who just point fingers.

    It's nice to know I still have a thumbs down stalker. 🙂
    I wish that I could tell you that you're too smart to miss my point.

    But just a brief comment.
    If you are out to communicate to all the clans that there are clans who are benefitting from all of this, where do you think they will look first ?
    You and I lead the top 2 clan's in the standings. That's a hint.

    Let us know how your investigation turns out. 😜
  13. SubscriberVery Rusty
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    02 Aug '22 13:491 edit
    @mghrn55 said
    I wish that I could tell you that you're too smart to miss my point.
    This conversation is useless in my humble opinion. It will just go around in circles.

    I suggest we all try and be civil to each other, no need of making insults either mghrn55. All insults do is bring on more insults.

    -VR
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    @very-rusty said
    This conversation is useless in my humble opinion. It will just go around in circles.

    I suggest we all try and be civil to each other, no need of making insults either mghrn55. All insults do is bring on more insults.

    -VR
    You started this.
    It was you who started about unbalanced challenges after months of peaceful quiet.

    I put out a post July 29 asking why this started up again in just the last few weeks.
    Care to answer ?
  15. SubscriberVery Rusty
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    02 Aug '22 20:42
    @mghrn55 said
    You started this.
    It was you who started about unbalanced challenges after months of peaceful quiet.

    I put out a post July 29 asking why this started up again in just the last few weeks.
    Care to answer ?
    You know exactly what I am talking about, you don't need it explained to you mghrn55. Do you think continuing will change my mind on what I see with my eyes.

    -VR
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